Make Enclosed Selection Mode a permanent option
Illustrator now allows to use Enclosed Mode to select objects within the marquee (originally requested here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/31863601), but the only way to do it is tap E key.
I agree that this basic feature is essential, but I don't agree that any modifier keys or specific dragging directions (like requested here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/49489604) should be required. Shift-drag is already used to add to the selection, so that won't work.
Opt/Alt toggles duplication, and both can be toggled mid-drag (unlike in Photoshop).
This should be a selectable selection mode (also with a hotkey), and in fact there should be a way to set it as the default option.
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Illustrator today allows to set this mode as a default behavior with the Select Objects only within Marquee option, in Preferences > Selection & Anchor Display.
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Ken Ration commented
"1. Once the permanent option is enabled, E should work the other way — temporarily disable the Enclosed mode... doesn’t happen"
Ah, that was the reason I asked. No way around it: This is just grossly incompetent programming. These guys suck. They may be (and probably are) very nice people. But they suck at this.
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No, Ken, we can still trigger this mode on the fly by tapping E key once after the marquee is started. The cursor changes, displaying square brackets underneath. Tapping E the second time while dragging disables it back. But tapping E is required each time you make a marquee — unless this permanent option is enabled.
There are two things that bother me (OK, more):
1. Once the permanent option is enabled, E should work the other way — temporarily disable the Enclosed mode... doesn’t happen
2. In one of Beta builds there was a way to assign a different key to toggle the mode on the fly, and now it’s gone. So far it’s unclear whySmaller things:
3. The cursor shifts 1 px down+right when Enclosed mode becomes active (for me, at 100% UI+OS scale) — reported here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/939477/suggestions/48775478
4. The scope is broken with it, and it still requires Group Selection while isolated in a group — reported here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/50688266 -
The original implementation REQUIRED the use of a hotkey. Was that removed?
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@e.k. kuzey,
at the moment Ai doesn’t have a mechanism to set hotkeys for items in panel’s menu and dialogs.
It is planned, AFAIK. The main request about this is here — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/31609237 -
e.k. kuzey commented
Original request is "This should be a selectable selection mode (also with a hotkey), and in fact there should be a way to set it as the default option."
Does the new selection mode have a hotkey?
When needed, to change selection behaviour from preferences is not practical. -
Oscar Goldman commented
I can't believe we're still even debating this. It took what, a decade to even get a response on it... and then Adobe implemented an embarrassing whiff.
Truly pathetic. Meanwhile, other software has handled this easily (and by default) for DECADES.
Adobe's disregard and insulting failure on this feature alone proves that ithe excuses they gave for their rental scam were lies. But of course we knew that beforehand.