Select inside marquee window
Create a toggle-able feature like the one found in many CAD programs:
Select ONLY the objects ENTIRELY inside the selection window marquee via the following methods:
1. hold Shift+drag
2. Dragging left-to-right enables "select inside", dragging right-to-left enables "select touching" (as per most CAD programs)
The latest Beta 126.96.36.199 introduces several changes to the Enclosed Mode.
Now, instead of Opt/Alt, the mode is controlled by 'E' key (to avoid conflicting with the established modes).
Now, you need to tap 'E' ONCE after you start the marquee to toggle the mode — no need to hold it all the time. The mode will be active until you release the marquee.
There is no option to toggle the mode permanently at the moment, the team is evaluating this. So far this is the only mode that can be toggled in this fashion.
This mode works for both Selection and Group Selection tools, and hopefully behaves as we expect it to.
Please test it and post your feedback!
i wanted (and asked) this in 2006, hehe
they will never implement it
Granted, programs like AutoCAD are super clunky and outdated, but Adobe could learn a ton from them. There are a lot of quality-of-life features like this missing from Ai.
Sure Ai should have it.
Meanwhile, there is Super Marquee Tool from the AstuteGraphics plugin pack that allows to do exactly that and much more. If you need this right here and now, I suggest trying this solution.
@Szasz-Fabian Jozsef it's like talking to deaf and blind people, there is no hope in Adobe.
Szasz-Fabian Jozsef commented
Selecting objects that are touched by the selection marquee is extremely dumb. I don't know why Illsutrator, inDesign and other Adobe software designers find useful to selected EVERYTHING that is touched.
Please learn from Corel or CAD applications - the user must be able to select objects that are INSIDE the selection marquee.
In order to select some objects in Illustrator or inDesign, the user has to make all kind of tricks and has to struggle every day, because the selection method is too simple and dumb.
Why is so dumb? Because it allows only one way - drag a selection marquee. Take this example from Corel:
- Simple selecting selects objects inside the marquee
- Alt-selecting selects objects touched by the marquee
- Starting the selection with Alt and finishing without Alt selects the objects inside the marquee, WITHOUT moving the object that is under the cursor where the selection marquee started
- Alt-clicking allows to select the objects BEHIND the topmost object.
Adobe products know only the fraction of the features mentioned above, therefore has the worse UX when selecting.
Dear Adobe, it has been years since users have required this feature. Please check this old thread where people have to struggle with plugins or scripting to perform this basic feature. This thread is more than 8 years old.
Mark Elliott commented
Yesssss. Please make Illustrator's selection rectangle work like Rhino's.
Aaron Sheffield commented
The main issue for me is that if i shift-box through some elements that i already have selected, instead of adding to the selection, it removes some of the already selected objects (toggle). I wish shift/ctrl would be like any other CAD/graphics program (including photoshop!) where shift=add ctrl=subtract. the toggle is absolutely maddening.
In AutoCAD, 2 selection methods exist, and their functionality depends on the direction you draw the selection box.
1) When you drag the selection box from left to right, only objects entirely within the
window will be selected. This is the same as with the Cool Selection plugin The selection box is a solid line.
2) When you drag the selection box from right to left, objects within and crossing the window will be selected. This is how the actual AI Selection Tool works (although by dragging the selection box to any direction. The selection box is a dashed line.
Option 1 is indeed missing from AI.
Alasdair Tarry commented
It's surprising Illustrator has not adopted what is standard issue across other CAD softwares — AutoCAD, Revit, Rhino 3D. Left-to-right drag only selects objects entirely enclosed inside the selection marquee, right-to-left drag selects all objects crossed and inside the selection marquee.
It becomes second-nature very quickly and would return a lot of time deselecting points and lines as collateral.
@Viktor. This is a life saver! Thank you a lot.
@Adobe, can you learn from it?
There is an Illustrator plugin to do this: https://www.cool-selection.com
David Gurney commented
So much for Adobe's rental model, which was supposed to fund bug fixes like this.
This has been requested for over a decade.
This is hilarious what Adobe does. Adobe wake up!!! It's time to go to work!
Easy fix please do this ASAP it is the only reason why I don't use AI exclusively and only on project I need to share files. I'd like to make the switch so I don't have to use two programs..
I think this is essential and I am not sure why Ai doesn't have it.
I like to select some shapes in a group of shapes that are not grouped.
For example in attached file, I like to drag and select only the shapes that are fully enclosed in the mouse drag area.
I don't want to select the objects that only a portion of them are in the mouse drag area.
Inkscape has this option and is extremely handy.
That is strange, we have all kinds of selection tools but lacking the very basic selection!
Yes, this is a must have, not only for a professional app (simple App like TouchDraw.app have this feature).
"We are committed to making our customers happy and satisfied with our products & services. With an emphasis on customer satisfaction, we’ve come up with the ‘Customer Happiness’ release series where we’ll provide fixes to as many UserVoice issues as possible. However, given the nature of the issues, fixes for some bugs might take a little longer, but we are doing our best to fix them as soon as we can. The first release in this series with more than 40 bug fixes reported on User-Voice is available worldwide now."
Why only 40 reported bugs/issues? Is this some kind of joke Adobe?
Szasz-Fabian Jozsef commented
This is the number one super annoying problem - the dumb selection. Selecting objects entirely inside the marque is a must. I always wondered why people are so addicted to illustrator yet it lacks basic usability features - like the very basic selection methods and a simple and usable point selection...
Currently, the selection marquee randomly selects everything touched - unusable, annoying, error-prone, struggling.
Its annoying that every touched object is selected in Adobe products. Either add a setting somewhere or do it like AutoCad did (s. Philip)