Remove canvas size limit
Can we please have the possibility to set bigger canvas size to incorporate large sized artwork.
(Please note: This item is NOT for more number of artboards per document)
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I am glad to announce that we have completed this feature in Beta and are actively seeking your feedback to help us understand if this feature meets your workflow needs.
All the users who subscribed to our pre release program would have received an email from me to welcome you to our new Beta program. The new Beta program gives you access to the Large Canvas feature and also seeks your feedback through the survey link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/7ZDMD5L
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Robbie Bouchoms commented
Is it possible to make a artboard larger then 577.9558 cm? I need a make a file that is 1100 cm long (433,07"). Is that possible in a way or is there a solution that I can make it in scale 1:10 and save it with at original size?
@Davey Morgan. We recently did a banner 90" x 57". The type was vector-ized, and a JPG image was 56" x 75", 62.6 MB, 72 ppi. It looked good, but the viewing distance was typically about 20' away. If closer (as in an office), we probably would have increased the rez.
Davey Morgan commented
I need a size of 457.50" x 118" for a mural in an office. I need to export it as a JPG.
My Beta lost the ability to create artboards beyond the typical 227. If I type in larger dimensions I get the error message "Artboard can not be created beyond the canvas bounds." and if I drag the size larger I get a different error message, "Artboard size can not be bigger than canvas size."
Version listed in Finder as 24.1.0 and on the splash screen as 24.1 6@177427
ABOLISH THE CANVAS LIMIT commented
I did a test with the preview, saving a really large AI file and opening it in the current version of Illustrator just to see what would happen. It basically saves the file at 10%, so when you open it in any old version that how it shows up.
Could you add some kind of functionality in large canvas mode where it saves large files with some kind of indicator that shows up in older versions to let people know the file is scaled down? Maybe just a "Scale: 1:10" textbox at the bottom just off the artboard, something like that.
I can see a future where co-workers or clients open design files and don't know they're scaled-down, leading to a bunch of confusion or possible production errors
As a sign shop, everything we produce is PDF unless we are printing & cutting a job in which case it's EPS. We only use raster for sending proofs – OR …
Another feature that is SOOO frustrating is transparency behavior. We often have to flatten transparency to make cut lines work for our plotter. But doing so makes the file uneditable so we have to use workarounds.
Andrew Hainen commented
I want to use large raster imagery in Illustrator, but the performance chugs so hard with ANY raster graphics that I just don't and use some other program instead.
Glad to hear this is under review! I *would* use raster formats, if such a thing was available. For large format photographic work, I would export tiffs. Because this feature doesn't exist, I often export as .eps, but exporting as .tif would allow for more straightforward post-export file checking.
To answer your questions:
1. my workflow in this scenario is to lay out artboards, to scale, of the architectural features to which I'll be applying graphics. Imagine, for example, three drywall panels with mullions between each, sized slightly differently because of variations in installation. I then scale the artboards up by half an inch on all sides for bleed, place my graphic such that it overlays all artboards, then export and check "use artboards." Typically there's not much that happens after that – I check dimensions and resolution and send to print.
2. The maximum size should be infinity. That's the whole point of this thread. I regularly work on floor layouts for buildings that are many hundreds of feet in each dimension. But conceptually, with vector graphics, we should be able to draw a shape 2 inches wide or 2 miles wide with no discernible difference. That's why we use vector graphics to begin with!
3. Large scale photo/sign printing typically uses 100dpi, though 300 is ideal if you have the source resolution to accommodate that. Smaller scale photo prints often go up to 600 or 1200.
I mainly use Illustrator for large-scale banners, rarely do I use JPEG or other raster files for large scale. Thanks for your work on this!
If you build larger artboards will Acrobat be able to use them upon export to PDF? Currently anything over 200 inches gets cut off. If you don't fix that then adding this functionality is pointless.
In Addition to this, can you allow bleed settings to go over one inch? Once inch restriction has always been a head scratcher.
We use the export function. Typically no higher than 200 dpi.
Artboard size, Max I'd like to have at least 480", but that's a rarity. Minimum we use is 1" x 1" on small jobs.
Most of our files make their way into photoshop after export before we send to various printers.
We use Photoshop to rasterize vector files due to it's superior bitmap engine.
If I build a giant sign in illustrator, often I'll export a jpg using the "save for web" feature, making sure neither length nor width is over 4000px. Then I take that jpg into Photoshop (as the .ai is waaayyy to big to do this) and Photoshop the .jpg into a photo to show clients what the sign will look like in place.
The print shop I used to work in, the wide format printer would only take .eps files, and occasionally .PDFs . And we would almost always use illustrator, occasionally Photoshop, and never InDesign for sign projects.
For what it's worth—
We use raster formats only for printed graphics, usually TIF files, and we use only InDesign for these kinds of projects.
We use Illustrator for work requiring larger canvases—banners, signs (an example of a completed project is attached), exhibition properties, etc. For these kinds of projects—which may be up to 60 feet long—everything—type, graphics, etc.—is vectorized. In the rare case where we need a raster image, we place a TIF or PDF file at appropriate resolution.
1. Export to PDF to send to company to print
2. 6,5 meters 1:1
Morten T commented
One input for those three:
1: It would almost always be final output for press/print
2: Around 20 meters 1:1
3: 150ppi, but that is very project dependent. Wouldn't export something 20 meters wide in 150ppi
Lyle Booth commented
Can adobe make everything bigger?
If yes, then do it.
Kate Phillips commented
Very excited to see a large canvas. I don't mind doing half-scale banners or projects, but it's very frustrating when a client sends me a 1:1 vector I can't use ("can't move it off the workspace"), and I have to ask them to scale it - it makes me look like I'm not the professional! Signage and large-scale graphics really can use this large canvas.
Dude, seriously? Shut it.
It's great but not really enough to feel comfortable with 1:1 scale large graphics. Is there a certain reason it's just 2270 inches, not 3000 or 5000?