Today I'm going to bring you awareness to the way Illustrator treats groups in compounds.

For me it sounds strange already — why would I want a group inside of a compound path?
What would I use it for?
Ai won’t allow me to go isolate this group to edit its components.
Ai would not show it in the Layers tree —for some reason we can’t expand a compound path to see its children, like we can do with the groups.
Ai won’t give scripts a way to see these groups inside of compound paths — and this leads to problems when you have to cycle through a path’s children.

Still, Ai allows to create groups in compounds.

The very first option, when you select a group and command Create Compound Path, is fixed — Illustrator ungroups it for us, it seems, and then creates a compound path — if you uncompound it, you would get objects ungrouped.

The second one is simple as that, but is not fixed.
Create a new compound path from two or more objects. Leave it.
Create a new group from whatever number objects. Cut it.
Isolate the first compound path. Paste the group in the compound path.
There you have it, a group in a compound path.
A script won’t see its children when because AI never tells it is a group and not just a first level child.
If you uncompound it, the group will be there.

You don’t have to isolate and paste to create these.
Ai just makes them occasionally.
Draw two rectangles, one atop another.
Select them both and grab Shape Builder.
Click the inner rectangle once and then click one more time, but with Alt held.
And now you have a compound path that is comprised from a group entirely.

So the problem is that Ai can’t treat these uniformly. It says both yes and no:
— Ai doesn't allow to naively create compounds from groups — no
— You can paste groups inside — yes
— You can't expand compounds in Layers tree or isolate them — no
— You can have these done with default tools — yes
— But scripts won't see them — no
Guess, dear user!

Please make this more predictable.
Make these legal and give tools to control OR make the impossible entirely and make sure they stay like it.
Which way to choose?
Which one you prefer and why?
Let’s discuss it.

This one also relates to more requests and reports, like this one:
https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657-illustrator-feature-requests/suggestions/40046932-groups-within-compound-paths

I use Illustrator in english, but my keyboard and pc language are in Portuguese ABNT2. I don't know if this is the problem, but for some reason some shortcuts are different from those listed on Illustrator's Keyboard Shortcuts window.

For example, Hide Guides is listed as "CTRL + ;", but it only works with "CTRL + Ç".
Another example is "Bring Foward/to Front", these commands use the "[" as one of the shortcut keys, but here is "´", while "Send Backward/to Back" normally uses "]", here only works with "[". This is really confusing.

This only happens in Illustrator, all the other apps work fine.

I'm having an issue of pasting items not just within the same doc but also in other docs.

I wanted to past a vector with writing in it onto another artboard, but only the text copies over and it doesn't keep the font settings, it goes to default settings. It also doesn't paste in place as requested it pastes off the artboard in a random place.

What I wanted was to paste in place on another artboard or another doc, retaining all the information of the copied item. It worked perfectly before but I'm not sure why it's changed.

I'm running Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Illustrator CC 2019

I updated illustrator this morning, and without ever knowing that this could be a possibility...nudging with the arrow keys just seem to stop working. It was extremely annoying since it is kind of second nature for me to use it. So I scrolled through google, looked everywhere to know how and why this is happening. After a while, in the midst of working, I finally see that I could change the 'keyboard increment' back to my trusted 0,5 px. I am truly baffled why anyone would think it is a good idea to just change that to 0,0028? what would be the reason to do that?? Also, it really threw me off what I was doing today which was totally unnecessary.....Please don't do that again, thank you!!

When changing UNITS in preferences from Pixels to Inches, the changes do not appear in the document set up. You have to launch the document, then go back in and reselect UNITS and change it to inches again (a second time). Note: The same PROBLEM exists in InDesign.

Also, I DO wish you would create a way to select WHICH style a user wants as a default so that it doesn't have to be reselected with each and every new document created. My personal default is inches. But every time I start something new, it is always in pixels until I change it. Unnecessary extra step.

MAC Big Sur 11.1 Adobe Illustrator (latest) 25.1

Hello,

I'm using Illustrator 24.3 on a brand new Macbook Pro.

Several times a day it crashes. It seems to happen most often when:
- my computer goes into sleep mode and I reawaken it

Quite often it happens for no reason, even when I am using another program.

I have spent a lot of time on the Adobe community page trying various solutions but nothing seems to have worked. I have 'problem reports' from the crash.

Can anybody direct me to somebody who I can work with to try and resolve the issue?

I have attached the latest 'problem report' from when it crashed

I need confirmation if the reason I cannot update is due to the Windows 10 version 20H2 by my company OR an issue on the Adobe side. I would like to escalate this matter internally if it is on our company's side. PLEASE ADVISE.

From the manager of the Meritor Infrastructure team:

At current I think we will not be beginning with the testing of the next version
until at least February. The next version will be Windows 10 version 20H2.

Please note that Windows 10 version 20H2 is anticipated to be unsupported by
Adobe From October 2021, even though Microsoft will support this version until
May 2023. So, after October 2021 those users who are using Adobe products
may experience the exact same issue again even when using this new version of
Windows 10. This is the reason why Adobe is facing continued criticism from
(and actually losing some of) its enterprise customers.