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Excited to share that the requested functionality is now available in the public builds starting from V 28.3.0.
WIth the new Enclosed Mode, you can now select ONLY those objects which are completely INSIDE the marquee.
To activate the Enclosed Mode, just press 'E' ONCE after you start doing the marquee with the Normal Selection Tool or Group Selection tool.
Please note that,
1. The button E acts as a toggle, which means you just have to press E once, to get into or out of the enclosed mode.
2. You have to press E only after doing the marquee, pressing E in empty canvas will invoke the Free Transform tool or the tool the shortcut 'E' is assigned to.
We made a lot of effort in building this capability, so please try it out and let us what you all think!
An error occurred while saving the comment An error occurred while saving the comment An now there is also a separate request about making it a permanent option we tan toggle to change the default behavior: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/49503929
All who clearly asked about this in the comments for the original request got added as voters to this branched request.
As usual, if you feel this matches with your idea about how it should work — please upvote it.An error occurred while saving the comment There is a separate request now about having it the CAD-way, when a direction of the marquee toggles the mode: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/49489604
I added all of those who clearly messaged it was they preferred method as voters.
If you feel this is something you like as well — please upvote it.
I personally don’t see why Illustrator, being a professional tool, should offer only ONE of FOUR methods we all came up with in the comments.An error occurred while saving the comment Another third-part solution would be Area Select Tool from ESKO’s boostX plugin pack:
https://docs.esko.com/docs/en-us/boostx-for-ai/16/userguide/home.html?q=en-us/common/bx/topic/to_areaselect.htmlAn error occurred while saving the comment Here is what I think.
1. Users need a way to permanently toggle the mode. It is clear, if you read comments below.
2. Users need a hotkey slot to toggle the mode.
3. Users need hotkeys to toggle other modes in Illustrator:
- Transform Pattern Tiles
- Scale Stroke and Effects
- Scale Corners
- Use Preview Bounds
4. Users need a way to toggle these on the fly, when a transformation has already started.
5. Some modes have hotkeys, but are impossible to toggle after dragging has started:
- Smart Guides
- Snap to Grid / Pixels / Point / Glyphs
6. Illustrator requires us to hold standard modifier keys (Alt/Opt, Shift, Cmd/Ctrl) all the time until the mouse button is released, unlike Photoshop. This is both useful and confusing (and the request even exists(http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/44954005), 1 vote)
7. Professionals are 'speedrunners'. Illustrator desperately needs to introduce more modifier keys(http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/34616848) for many tools, to help the professionals to be productive — the same way Illustrator introduces contextual panels.
8. There is an established workflow third-parties developed to toggle modes for tools (not one developer, not two, but many at once) — use letter keys one can tap or hold. This method works.
9. The method is yet unfamiliar to basic Illustrator users.
10. The method requires some in-app education, in a way it doesn’t distract professionals but helps newbies.
11. Illustrator has been requiring a method to inform users about possible modifiers for many decades.
12. All competitors and third-party developers solved this problem many years ago. They use hints near cursor / a dedicated panel with a column view / a dedicated panel slot to display hints. There is a request to introduce one for illustrator(http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/32403871), reviving the section at the bottom. Another request directly asks for a panel(http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/40470892).
13. Without a panel/section, it’d be hard to educated people about the enclosed mode. People got fed up with rich tooltips and 'Try this' and 'This is new' popups really fast, since they interrupt the workflow (the one in Photoshop can’t even be closed!), so there should be a calmer way to do it.
14. The panel makes sense if you introduce other keys to control other modes along with the Enclosed Mode or soon enough. These can be:
- T for Transform Pattern Tiles
- S for Scale Stroke and Effects
- C for Scale Corners
- P for Use Preview Bounds
- U for Smart Guides
- G for Snap to Grid
- X for Snap to Pixels
- O for Snap to Point
- L for Snap to Glyphs
- etc., you get the idea
15. Another key like this exists already, it’s ` or ~ (tilde), and it allows many things, including temporarily Transform Pattern Tiles. This key is broken(http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/41072941) — it works poorly on non-English keyboards (including me). The new mode-toggling method could solve it.
16. We need a way to both toggle modes temporarily and permanently on the fly. This can be easily done with distinguishing 'hold' and 'tap'. If a user holds the mode key — then the mode works only until the mouse key is released. If a user taps a key while holding a mouse button — the mode stays toggled permanently.
17. Both methods require clear on-canvas confirmation.
18. `Opt/Alt` is as good as `E`, faster to learn, but will cut off all the things above. But — you can use both. It’s a normal practice to allow different methods to regulate an option (take Scale Stroke and Effects we can toggle in three different places).
19. You can solve many more issues at once with this. Limiting it to only 'good-enough' solution and cutting off branches that can grow into other solutions is the exact way that led Illustrator to the condition it currently stays in.
20. You definitely need to learn to highlight objects that are going to be selected — as a separate option, for all the selection tools, including Direct Selection. Third-parties solved this, so can you.An error occurred while saving the comment Yup, Alessandro, it’d be. The team knows about this, and thanks for speaking about it.
Have no idea though if they will add it and when.An error occurred while saving the comment Sure Ai should have it.
Meanwhile, there is Super Marquee Tool from the AstuteGraphics plugin pack that allows to do exactly that and much more. If you need this right here and now, I suggest trying this solution.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Well, I agree, but leave Shift alone, it's as good as it is now, it adds/subtracts from selection. Same for Ctrl. May be Alt?
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An error occurred while saving the comment It’s tough to say without the file shared, what went wrong with this one.
The size of the rectangle is unknown. The Transform section in the Properties panel shows the size of the artboard, rather than the selected object...
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An error occurred while saving the comment I wonder if you are still having problems like this today. The artboard limit is 227" today, and can be larger 10 times in the scaled Large Canvas mode...
But your 2 50" wide artboards should have not exceeded 227... the screenshot doesn’t show both on canvas though, so perhaps it was a huge gap between them? Tough to say now. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment When creating a web-intended document, Ai assumes it has a resolution of 72 ppi. Pixel is point in Postcript, and point is a physical unit, a 1/72 of an inch.
Changing the resolution in Ai when exporting always means resampling.
So if you create a 6535×4730 px document, and try to export it using 300 ppi, Ai would scale it up 4,16(6) times (300 / 72), treating it as a multiplier/coefficient, rather than an arbitrary value that gets written into the image — and it makes your 6535×4730 into 27229,16(6)×19708,3(3) px. This is far beyond the limit Ai has! And I’m not sure if you meant to do this.
Images for digital media care not about the resolution... And PNG was designed to Web. If you intend to create for printing — it’s better to use real-world units.I’d like to learn more about the workflow you had (have?)
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An error occurred while saving the comment Kik, this feels like a GPU bug.
Does it go away when you enable CPU preview instead, with View > Preview on CPU?
Anyway, please provide your full OS and GPU specs, so that the team could try to reproduce this at their side using a similar setup.
Ideally, having this actual file could help as well — please send it to sharewithai@adobe.com (and mention the link to this report for tracking it back here — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/50687483) -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Just to clarify — so it NEVER works if you add Shift, but works without Shift after a first failed attempt?
Or does it always work without Shift added?An error occurred while saving the comment I personally don’t have this problem... But it’s not the first time this bubbles up :(
1. Holding Alt while dragging an object to copy / duplicate it doesn’t works — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/32365747 — nobody replied if it was fixed for them
2. Alt-Drag to Duplicate (and Shift to align) Only Works Intermittently — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/31354873 — was fixed in 2020, and no-one upvoted this since then — but if fits your description with the Shift held additionally
3. Click-drag fails... snaps back — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/44914921 — this one I was told is under review, but I never got a confirmation from the team it was fixed. Does this one feel like a same problem to you?An error occurred while saving the comment In Illustrator, unlike in e.g. Photoshop, we have to hold Opt/Alt all the time while trying to duplicate.
Is this what you are observing?A discussion about the difference in modality paradigms Ai and Ps have:
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An error occurred while saving the comment Works smoothly for Rotate and Scale tools, but not for Direct Selection. The pattern moves, but not WITH the object, not WITHIN it, like before.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Jennifer, the team is aware and intends to support it later. Thanks for the report!
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An error occurred while saving the comment A smaller and more specialized request,
A way to convert type to strokes
http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/45248209AdminEgor Chistyakov
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An error occurred while saving the comment A larger general request,
Convert expanded strokes back to live strokes (unexpand / unoutline strokes) / Find centerlines
http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/44614782An error occurred while saving the comment This is an insanely complicated task.
Not every font can be converted to a series of separate stems. What about round corners? decorative elements? optical compensations? This is only us, humans (or maybe some new neural networks), can see separate parts in the merged and united glyphs.However, there are some tools which can help you edit these paths.
1. A paid plugin, Reform by AstuteGraphics, https://astutegraphics.com/plugins/reform — it allows you to intuitively edit outlined strokes, very close to Width tool, but perhaps even better.
2. A paid script. MojiDisassembler script, https://sppy.stars.ne.jp/mojidisassembler — it tries to break united shapes into overlapping parts. The only downside of it — it’s in Japanese only, but little text in it and it can be translated.Actually, these two tools combined work magic.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Generative Expand works like this:
1. A copy of the artwork gets rasterized, and taster-based generative fill is used to fill the void
2. The raster result is traced using Image Trace
We don’t have control over the settings used while tracing the result, but it ignores stroke detecting completely... Illustrator is not that good in tracing strokes in general (and to be fair, no other app or services I know does it well). It’s a common root problem.But yes, it should work better. Voted.
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This was marked as fixed in 2019, but there were several reports about this still happening after 2022.
Please vote and comment if this is something you occasionally experience still.
An error occurred while saving the comment Can’t reproduce, really.
If you press Cmd/Ctrl+0 before pressing Cmd/Ctrl+V, to fit artboard in window, it works as it should, quite precise.
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The issue seems to be resolved in the latest Illustrator builds — feel free to drop a comment if it still misbehaves, with test files and screenshots.
The problem with different treatment of fractional values by Ai and Ps is moved into a separate request — please join the discussion.
An error occurred while saving the comment While this is not a problem now, this one still is:
Holding Shift when picking a color from a gradient in a CMYK document samples the wrong color
http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/50684312An error occurred while saving the comment Ton, you might be correct with the assumption...
I tried to rasterize a rectangle with fractions in CMYK color (55.69) and opened the image in Photoshop — and got integers, 56...
But then I mix the very same color in Ps, making integers manually, fill half of the image with this new color and try to pick colors from this image in Ai: Ai still picks the original 55.69 from the original half of the image... and 56.08 from the half I flooded with Ps’s 56!
And Ps SEES them as different color when Color Picker is used, displaying different Lab, RGB, HSB values, but CMYK stays the same, rounded.In my experiment below I did a similar thing: created these in Ai first (but no fractions), rasterized it, used to make a composition and placed back into Ai.
Double conversion and forcing integers (visually) would explain it.So Ai is rather precise... but the irritation stays.
Now the question would be — what to do with the uncomfortable truth? 'Fighting ignorance' is my favorite choice, but...An error occurred while saving the comment Here is an example.
I have a CMYK document, and it has a linked image in it, with an intentionally chosen profile, with some specific colors set for the background, and these have to be the part of the background, because of blending modes used.
Now I need to grab those colors form the clear parts of the background to quickly transfer them into vector part of the design. But when I try — Ai lies about values.Instead of
70-15-0-0
0-35-85-0
0-95-20-0
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69.8-14.9-0-0
0-34.9-85.1-0
0-94.9-20-0Not much, right? Just 0.2%, why are you mad?
But these would be enough to break Select Same Fill later, duplicate swatches if added next to existing ones in other documents, drop my trust level for the tool and force me cleaning this mess in the time I need I can’t spend. Sure, there are methods to help with this, but it’s not MY error. It’s Ai’s lie.An error occurred while saving the comment A related report:
Eyedropper picks wrong color from linked images compared to embedded ones
http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/36903451An error occurred while saving the comment A related report:
Eyedropper picks wrong CMYK colors from image's RGB preview in CMYK document
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An error occurred while saving the comment Ton, hello! I don't care about screen representation as user. I know my image has different colors and I want THEM, not colors from preview which exists in inner AI world. I want 0-65-100-0 instead of 12,01-67,93-100-2,45. I don't need dirty channels in bright orange. It all turns to money when prints got rejected.
And I won't embed 80-250Mb image which I still edit and therefore want to be linked, just to make broken tool work.AdminEgor Chistyakov
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An error occurred while saving the comment Even though we can hold Shift to pick a color form an object with a gradient applied, it picks the color sampled from the screen — the RGB value.
It means if we are in a CMYK document and picking a color from a white-to-black gradient, the picked color would NOT be a shade of black, as expected, but an atrocious converted muddy RGB value.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Perceptual gradients are calculated using Oklab color space:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklab_color_space
So yes, it gets converted into CMYK, using the working color space. It cares more about transitions than respecting the actual colors of the stops also.
If you wish to keep these and have more control about the intermediate colors, perhaps you’d better seek an alternative solution, like this script: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FG0g5yDm8 -
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An error occurred while saving the comment By description I’d suggest a modifier key state got stuck.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Yes, does the same thing for me.
I remember some other reports about doubled blending mode getting calculated wrong. Will merge or link if I found any.AdminEgor Chistyakov
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An error occurred while saving the comment Jesse, do you have Keyboard Maestro installed?
If yes — does it look like the same problem? — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/50678762An error occurred while saving the comment Jesse, what options do you have enabled in Preferences > Clipboard Handling? Specifically Include SVG Code — is it on?
Do you have any clipboard managers installed, as standalone apps or even browsers extensions?
Illustrator today allows to make Enclosed Selection Mode a permanent option, with with the Select Objects only within Marquee option, in Preferences > Selection & Anchor Display, as was requested here and in a separate request at http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/49503929
But I still can’t use it fully today.
I isolate often, and Selection tool does not allow to use Enclosed mode when isolated. For some strange reason it requires the Group Selection tool to do so, as if my scope stays at the document level, and I’m no in isolation! Make Selection tool work in Enclosed mode in isolation, please.