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An error occurred while saving the comment An error occurred while saving the comment Matt, can you reproduce the problem with a simplest rectangle in a brand new document?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Interesting!
My guess is that Ai understands that a result of the Offset Path applied to rectangle should be a rectangle and convert the resulting path into a live shape automatically. But it does that according to the first point (and the direction) of the path... and it is changed compared to the original by the Offset algorithm.
Easy to track if you apply an arrowhead before Offset Path.
See the image attached.The first and last point of rectangle created is always a point where you finish to draw a shape.
The direction of the path is based on the quadrant: top-left and bottom-right ones give clockwise direction, while top-right and bottom-left quadrants make them counter-clockwise.
But Offset Path make the direction always clockwise and finishes the paths at the bottommost point (and if two several points have the same Y-coordinate, the leftmost is picked)!
Same is true for any shape, not only rectangles, like the second image shows.So it’s not a bug, it’s just how Ai maintains consistency.
On the other hands, Ai could have been choosing the starting point and the direction to match the original, instead of forcing the direction an the bottommost point... I’d love to have it as an option. Would you mind converting this report into such a request?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Jennifer, can you please share a screenshot of the choices Ai offers?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Kristina, thanks for raising this up.
When it does happen — do you still see the handles of the bounding box?
Are you still able to move the selected object using arrow keys?
Finally, what OS and what version of Ai are you using specifically? -
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An error occurred while saving the comment 'Other CC programs' — not completely correct also... Photoshop does exactly the same thing Ai does (including ripping from groups).
InDesign — indeed puts each copy on top of each original.An error occurred while saving the comment It’s hardly 'suddenly'.
This behavior is native for Illustrator, and was like this for decades.
Take a look at these three tests, recorded in Ai 10, Ai CS6, and the latest Ai Beta 28.5.0.66.As you can see, Illustrator puts duplicated objects above the topmost originally selected one.
It becomes even funnier when we some of the selected objects are inside of groups — they get ripped out the groups (not shown in the GIFs though).This is not a bug, it’s just how it always was...
But you are totally correct. Same is true for the most of Paste commands — none of them honors the original structure, and all the copies go either at the very top of the layer, or above/below the topmost/bottommost one for In Front / Back commands...I am converting it to a feature request instead and adding my vote.
Thanks for raising this up here (I bet it was before... will merge together if I find more).AdminEgor Chistyakov
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An error occurred while saving the comment Hard to tell now..
But the fact the document is opened as an Untitled document, clearly signals that the PDF you try to import was saved without Preserve Illustrator Editing Compatibilities option, or was somehow changed outside of Illustrator. Illustrator can OPEN only those PDFs that were saved/exported in Ai with this option enabled (basically reading back the hidden .ai inner copy within the PDF), and IMPORTS all other PDFs — in this case the thumbnail can be an older one.Again, hard to tell anything without more details about how it was produced and the actual file...
Hope it won’t repeat for you.An error occurred while saving the comment Kamilla, alas, thumbnails for PDFs can mismatch from the actual contents of the document. These get generated once when a file is originally created, but stays unchanged if a user chooses (or rather chooses not) to update the thumbnail when a file is resaved/reexported further — it all depends on the routine used to re-generate a PDF...
Also, when a PDF gets optimized, there is an option to remove all the contents outside of the artboards. To ensure a PDF gets imported/opened the way it was saved/exported, you must enable the Preserve Illustrator Editing Compatibilities option, or chose a preset that has it enabled.
So it’s not an Illustrator’s fault at all... it just displays what is written as miniature preview within the file and imports what’s in it. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Glad it got resolved, but sad the bug got away.
Do you still have the original artwork? Can you please privately send it to the team to study? Use sharewithai@adobe.com (and put the link to this report in the body of the email, so they can can connect it to this report — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/48230054)An error occurred while saving the comment Please check this in your CCD app window:
1. Go to Beta apps section
2. Click the 'three dot' More Action button (next to Open) and choose 'Add-ons'
Make sure that Mockup-related feature components are added (three of current four, except the Retype one).
Even though you say you let the installer run — do you have all three successfully installed and listed there?An error occurred while saving the comment Avery, when launching Ai Beta, do you get any error messages about loading a 'GenerateUI.aip' plugin? I get one for 28.5.0.66.
Does it work, when you try to mockup a much simpler object, like a simple ellipse or rectangle? or try to use a different image? -
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Illustrator now crops clipping groups to their masks’ boundaries, the excesses get trimmed, no extra empty areas get kept.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Nope, it never was a thing (I even checked a couple of versions).
Most probably you confuse this with a similar option Photoshop has: Thumbnail Contents > Layer Bounds / Entire Document.I agree this should be consistent with the way Ai handles it.
Previously, rasterizing a clipping group would use the clipped contents bounds, and not the mask (now fixed).
But the symbols still suffer from this, here is a request to get it improved: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/43447725Technically not a bug.
I am converting this one to a feature request and adding my vote. Thank you so much for spotting this and making a post! -
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An error occurred while saving the comment The bug is not new though... it’s been there with us at least from CS6.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Indeed, it is broken.
Same happens for both Transform, Properties, and Control. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment The team informs the engine for Save As SVG generation changed — from no on it is going to be the the same one SVG Export uses.
This may indeed result in a few changes like the list you mentioned.
That said, the output should still be visually correct. Any options provided via scripting should also be used as before though.An error occurred while saving the comment @Janusz, which of three methods to produce an SVG do you use?
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An error occurred while saving the comment There are few similar requests like this one, different enough to stay as separate entries — perhaps you’d like to upvote them:
1. Consistent Keyboard Shortcuts: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/39880372
2. Unify the design language of UI and UX across all Adobe products: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/34605112
3. Make Desktop and iPad versions look the same: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/931888/suggestions/42520507An error occurred while saving the comment You shouldn’t have mention the rules of the road :)
Eurotunnel is a funny thing! And when a whole country is built around certain driving rules... I don’t mean it’s no possible to change the side people drive (cases exist), it’s just never easy.I understand your sarcasm, and I share some of the notions myself.
They apply both ways: I like some things Photoshop does better, and some things Ai nailed (and some thing both do very poorly).
But you can’t unite American English and British English back together. And Ps and Ai were never even siblings. Count them as cousins. Or better as employees in a uniform. Actually, I think metaphors makes it worse.But people learn different languages and embrace different cultures all the time. Don’t deny us the ability to learn a new program.
An error occurred while saving the comment Consistency for the sake of consistency is a dangerous idea.
If you change a default behavior (either from Ai or Ps side), an army of users who know how it works will get very mad. More mad than any user can be who comes from Ps and learns how a tool in Ai works.Despite Ps and Ai (and InD and AE) look very similar, they are very much different, come from different sources, teams, backgrounds...
Eraser in Ai works like this, probably because it follows the way Line works in Ai, or any other tool that creates a shape here.
Eraser in Ps works like this, probably because it follows the way Brush work in Ps.Ai deals with objects.
Ps deals with pixels.There are many requests here at UV to make Ai looks like InDesign (from those who learnt InD first), or Corel Draw (from those who came in Ai from there), or like Figma (there are pretty new in general), or anything else...
It never does get solved by mimicking... It gets solved by learning and training one’s mind.However, requests like yours are still important — so thank you for not being silent and requesting it.
These help to make the team to be aware of the paradigms shifting and to adapt Ai to those that are important. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Jon, there are 5 types of brushes in Illustrator:
calligraphic, scatter, art, bristle, pattern.
2 of them do not support and never supported dashes: calligraphic and bristle.
They are just designed for different purposes.The brush tip you show in your screenshot is a calligraphic '5 pt. Round' brush (that’s why Stroke panel says 1 pt, but the displayed weight is 5 pt)
To see the dashes, you’d have to remove the brush tip from the path. You can do it from the Brushes panel ('Remove Brush Stroke' button), or from the same looking controls in other panels, like Appearance or Control.This is not an uncommon topic.
Here are some posts (all three from Reddit):
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdobeIllustrator/comments/slmj4o/can_i_make_brush_strokes_dashed/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdobeIllustrator/comments/1bvs35p/bug_brushed_paths_cannot_have_dashed_lines/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdobeIllustrator/comments/xcrsly/apply_artpattern_brushes_to_calligraphy_strokes/Instead of closing this one as Rejected, I will convert it into a feature request.
I won’t hold my fingers even on it, but perhaps it will help to guide some users and gather more feedback.
Thanks for the report.An error occurred while saving the comment Jon, you probable made a mistake... you say both 'can' and 'cannot' for Pen Tool paths... perhaps you meant 'Brush Tool' in one of the cases?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Oh, I get it. Sure, having so many copies of the same image can bloat a file... Illustrator sadly don’t store copies of the same embedded image as instances. Or did you have it as a placed image?
And I prefer to disable the PDF-compatibility option myself, so not questions here.
As for the file — alas, only to recreate anew. Good luck and have patience (the most precious trait when working with Illustrator).An error occurred while saving the comment I am afraid the file got corrupted :( Illustrator can’t recognize it as a valid document and treats as text, I assume...
That’s a LARGE size for an Ai document! I have no idea what happened to it, but the larger the document is, the more chances for the saving process to go wrong :( Sorry, I am afraid it can’t be fixed...
If you used PDF Compatibility option (it is enabled by default), perhaps you can try to rename it to .pdf from .ai and use the PDF content to recover at least something? Try Acrobat and then resave the file (if it reads it) and then try to import it into Ai. -
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I have no trouble with assigning arrowheads to ALL the paths in this document...
So it’s either OS-specific, or something elusive is the cause, indeed.
If this ever happens again, please help to track it deeper — move the object into a new file and see if it crashes Ai when you repeat the actions that led to original crash. If it does, it’d mean the path is solely the reason. Otherwise it means it’s the full document’s fault. And some errors happen just by having Ai running for quite a while, sadly. And some are caused by plugins. So many variants...
This will take some time, but that’s the only way to iron these out.
Thanks for the report.