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    Brandon commented  · 

    By the way, I don't think the outline behaviour is related to the \forall.

    In fact, if you only type x in a formula and convert to PDF, it will still be outlined

    ALSO, if you don't even create an equation, just type 1D465 and press Alt+X (which will convert to U+1D465), convert to PDF, it will still be outlined

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    Brandon commented  · 

    Thank you for the effort of reproduction

    Please be aware that you should use Unicode input instead of LaTeX, and you should build the equation at last.

    By "selectable" I mean selectable in a PDF viewer (e.g. Chrome or Acrobat), like other text. Being able to select and copy.

    This issue does not just happen in MS Word. If I use LaTeX with unicode-math package, I will get the same results (some text parts being converted to outlines when opening with Ai)
    (But it's fine if I don't use unicode-math package, i.e., using the traditional Type 1 math fonts)

    (The math formula in LaTeX context should be \( \forall x \in \mathbbm{R} \) ) (MS Word does not recognize \mathbbm, though)

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    Brandon commented  · 

    The minimal reproduction PDF is attached here

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    Brandon commented  · 

    The way to reproduce is posted in the previous community thread, it basically contains only a formula \forall x \in \doubleR

    The PDF is generated by Adobe PDF Maker, it contains all text and graph elements within a document.
    In fact, I usually draw graphs in PPT, export to PDF, and fine-tune in Ai (for example, removing some extra invisible frames or precisely clipping). The reason why I export to PDF rather than SVG is because SVG may not preserve the correct layout (e.g. an OTF bracket within a math equation)

    Besides, the ReType functionality is useless in my case, because it cannot recognize the correct font. It would be better if I could manually specify what font it is.

    Apart from all these, it is OK for me if the text parts are just not editable in Ai, but it is NOT OK that the outlined text parts become unselectable FOREVER. Could there be a trick that lets the unchanged outline to restore the text? Something like a pass-through technique that could copy text parts directly from the original PDF to the output?

    I also notice the exception you mentioned that "a PDF generated by Ai" could "Preserve Illustrator Editing Capabilities". I think Adobe PDF Maker should have the same capability that inserts enough info to allow full edition in Ai

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