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I don't know how you "reposition" them. Dragging in the list does nothing. See the end of my video.
It's astounding how Adobe managed to make a list this dysfunctional.
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Thanks for the reply, Egor. But I don't understand this about the layer-"highlighting:"
"It allows you to reorganize your structure without actually selecting stuff on canvas. It’s super important for large docs."
How? There's no context menu and dragging does nothing. There are no apparent actions you can take on the highlighted layers.
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Attempting another attachment of the screen grab...
An error occurred while saving the comment Oscar Goldman commented
Sure. Screen grab attached. Interestingly, I was able to capture range-selection working... which is extremely rare. But only without a filter. With a filter, it's still totally broken.
And it also doesn't work when using the (unlabeled) "selection" boxes. Instead, it inexplicably requires the circles.
And finally,, there's still the bizarre and useless "highlighting" of layers in the list. There is no apparent purpose to it, since there's no context menu, and the items aren't really selected.
I hope Adobe takes these rather crippling defects seriously. For some documents, this problem wastes HOURS. No exaggeration.
OK... WHAT DID IT DO WITH MY FILE ATTACHMENT?
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Hi Everyone, This feature has been available since August 2020 release (version 24.3). Please update to the latest release using Creative Cloud desktop App: https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/help/creative-cloud-updates.html Thank you for all the feedback.
You can now select multiple layers in Layers panel. Click the bars (they get highlighted blue) if you want to operate layers and not their content (e.g. to drag to reorder) or click their markers to select their content — circle (target ones) or square (selection ones) next to them. There is no real difference which to pick, but if you want to select a range of layers, using Shift, use target markers.
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This is NOT FIXED, in 2026 30.5.1 on Windows.
It may work ONCE in a great while, but it will not work again in dozens of tries. I have not been able to find the pattern as to why it ever works.
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THIS DOES NOT WORK. Why claim that this is fixed?
As documented in other reports, this remains broken. It may work ONCE, based on no discernible pattern, but never again in dozens of tries.
This afflicts both platforms.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Oscar Goldman commented
Range selection doesn't work with ANY of the markers. I just tried it, and using the circles (instead of the empty space to the right of them) worked ONCE. Then never again.
This is one of the most infuriating parts of this bug, and I can't find any clue as to what the pattern is. It will work one time in a great while, then never again no matter how many times you try.... until it does.
The secret isn't reloading the file, quitting the app, or even rebooting the computer. I have no idea why it works ONCE in long periods.
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It's mind-boggling that this remains broken. The layer list is useless for many tasks now.
Range selection in the layer list is usually broken even if a filter is NOT used, by the way. Utterly defective.
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Excited to share that the requested functionality is now available in the public builds starting from V 28.3.0.
WIth the new Enclosed Mode, you can now select ONLY those objects which are completely INSIDE the marquee.
To activate the Enclosed Mode, just press 'E' ONCE after you start doing the marquee with the Normal Selection Tool or Group Selection tool.
Please note that,
1. The button E acts as a toggle, which means you just have to press E once, to get into or out of the enclosed mode.
2. You have to press E only after doing the marquee, pressing E in empty canvas will invoke the Free Transform tool or the tool the shortcut 'E' is assigned to.
We made a lot of effort in building this capability, so please try it out and let us what you all think!
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How come there was no update about the option now being persistent?
THAT'S GREAT! It only took what, 20 years? But now Illustrator is a viable option.
An error occurred while saving the comment Oscar Goldman commented
Thanks for the update. Having to tap a key before every selection activity is still dumb and unacceptable. Why not just do it right, with a persistent toggle in settings? Other vector-art applications have managed to pull this off for decades. DECADES.
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By the way, thank you for soliciting input, Adobe reps. But this implementation is so brain-dead that you're going to have to expect scorn for it. I hope you guys read this and do the simple implementation we asked for.
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Very disappointing. #2 is especially clueless, literally, since it's undiscoverable except by accident and will produce bafflingly inconsistent results by accident. If a user's art makes dragging up from right to left more convenient once in a while, the application will behave differently for no apparent reason.
#1 requres the user to press and hold an extra key over and over and over, every damned time he selects something in the app. This is THOUSANDS of tedious extra presses per project. WHY? Other vector programs simply have a toggle in preferences to make this the DEFAULT selection mode, and have for DECADES. Corel Draw, Inkscape, Affinity Designer... it's so easy.
You should be able to toggle the mode, and make Option-drag use the other one. This is all we need, and would have been even easier to implement programmatically. Why wasn't this done?
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Illustrator today allows to set this mode as a default behavior with the Select Objects only within Marquee option, in Preferences > Selection & Anchor Display.
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I can't believe we're still even debating this. It took what, a decade to even get a response on it... and then Adobe implemented an embarrassing whiff.
Truly pathetic. Meanwhile, other software has handled this easily (and by default) for DECADES.
Adobe's disregard and insulting failure on this feature alone proves that ithe excuses they gave for their rental scam were lies. But of course we knew that beforehand.
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Thanks again for the reply. In the video at :40, the caption says, "and dragging does nothing." This means I'm trying to drag there.
Microsoft's POS screen-capture tool doesn't allow you to show mouse-clicks. You have to bring the screen grab into an editing tool and laboriously add indications every time you want the viewer to know you're doing something. It's truly pathetic.
Meanwhile, we're moving away from Adobe garbage as fast as we can. The fact that this product made it out the door in this condition is bad enough; but for it to stay this way for decades is insulting.
Adobe should have open-sourced Illustrator 20 years ago, since it's basically abandonware at this point.