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    Bill commented  · 

    Architects and engineers work in scale all the time for 10s-100s million dollar projects. However, its much is harder to get that degree then graphic design. Scaling is used by most industries from signs to skyscrapers. Most graphic design degrees don't cover the industrial design aspects needed for reproducing real-life products. Industrial design aspects should be mandatory for any design degree. However, schools give you the stamp of approval learning not much more than designs for the web or small print. I've seen it time and time again, over-confident people getting into a design position for a sign company only to get humbled when they really don't know how all the pieces fit together from start to finish. Canvas size limitations are harder to grasp because they never had to scale to produce something that needs to be handed down to people to build.

    Say I'm working on a half million dollar pylon, I work in scale. That scale-able design then goes to many different outlets to a final product. From the engineers, to cad drawers, to the hands of the metal workers, city permits, all the to install...

    There seems to be a bunch of people bewildered by the canvas limitations, probably just a standard graphic designer without knowledge of real-life applications. Why would anyone work at 1:1 for industrial design? Yes, little billboards and banners are a form of industrial design.

    Designing for the web? The canvas is plenty big enough.
    Designing for real-life applications? Scaling is used by all industries. don't fight the way it is because you don't grasp that concept or you didn't learn industry standards.

    For those messing up prints because you forgot to scale should place checks and protocols to avoid simple mistakes. Not only to check scale but to check for other common errors that will mess up a print. You can set presets in any RIP to automate scales.

    FYI, infinite canvas' is currently on Adobes roadmap. But there is rarely a need for it for any industrial design project (shirts, signs, billboards, etc.) Maybe the people that put all the eggs in one artboard will be happy? Sorry for when that file ever goes corrupt.

    Here is the current projects Adobe is working on for Illustrator: https://us.v-cdn.net/6027299/uploads/editor/l7/7ddcjnx7zgsx.png

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    Bill commented  · 

    Illustrator is a professional tool and their marketing team does a good job masking that to gain more monthly subscriptions. To please the majority and casual users, Adobe really needs an offspring and call it Illustrator Elements, just like its sister programs Photoshop (Elements,) and Premiere (Elements.)

    Artboards is where rookies and experts are separated, in most cases the successful to the non-successful. Complaining about scaling you are simply refusing to learn something simple. Complaining about it not working with a vector/raster mix, you obviously need to learn how to handle raster files in a vector environment. Understanding how vector environments are you should understand everything is already a virtual scale, even your beloved Affinity and Corel. Bouncing between programs to deal with your lack of knowledge is a terrible workflow, but continue on while others are knocking out more jobs. More jobs = more money.

    Illustrator should implement a virtual scale, and this will likely be what they will do to please the complainers. To increase workflow professionals use the Hotdoor CAD tools plugin, its easy to use but you need at least some basic knowledge of architecture/engineering. The plugin is great and all but it would be nice to have it built into the program. It would be great to see it implemented in future releases.

    Before you complain about your billboard won't fit. It does fit, plugin or not, and the file is still lossless. I do work for the largest billboard/sign company in the Western USA, we don't complain as we understand a vector environment.

    Those who put 100 designs in one file and complaining you can't get 101 designs in that same file... I'm sorry for the chicken's eggs you put into one basket.

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