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Hi Egor, both of us here definitely feel this has changed. Before, if Edit/Preferences/General/Transform Pattern Tiles was selected and transform pattern only was selected in the Transform Palette options it worked just fine without any need for a ~ while dragging. BTW I'm using a UK keyboard and the ~ key is in a different location to the US keyboard and doesn't work for your solution. In my case the ¬ key (top left next to the 1 key) works fine. But only if Transform Pattern Tiles is deselected in Preferences.
So that is the workround we've now adopted.
As I said, it is important that we can see the orientation/position of the pattern changing within the object interactively as we drag. For our work typing in numbers is just way too cumbersome, unintuitive, slow and fiddly. We are creatives, not engineers after all..matt
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OK. So this is super confusing.
My aim is to be able to interactively move/rotate/resize a pattern within its containing object.
The way to do this is to check Transform Pattern Tiles and use the tilde key while dragging with the specific tool. This actually works.
This actually works also without Transform Pattern Tiles selected.
At this point the options in the Transform panel seem redundant for my purposes. Indeed by selecting Transform Pattern Tiles they will become unselected anyway.
However, if I toggle Transform Pattern Tiles off and then, in the Panel select . . .
Object: The object moves independently of the pattern
Pattern: The Object and the Pattern move together
Both: Object and Pattern move together AND Transform Pattern Tiles is toggled back to on.
None of which are what I want.
Anyway, after using the tilde method on 3 documents for 5 minutes it suddenly stopped working on one object. The pattern began to move and then the object outline moved instead and then snapped back with the pattern moved inside it. The other two still work. I then tried the same documents on our other machine and the tilde method only worked on one of the three documents.
So apart from a confusing interface with too many approaches for what is a simple requirement, the one technique that seems to work does so only intermittently.
Maybe it would be a good idea to put ALL pattern controls in one place or panel with clear descriptions.?
Egor, thanks for the attention you've provided so far, but I have spent over 6 hrs on this over the last two days. Let me know when Adobe gets this fixed.
Cheers, Matt