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    ncic commented  · 

    UPDATE!!!
    ADOBE HAS FIXED THIS BUG

    Hi folks
    Adobe has been quick and responsive and fixed this bug in the version 29.0.1 update
    Go to you CC app and you should see the version there under the update section.

    Thanks everyone for the team effort voting and posting to solve this bug.

    Thank you, @Rama and team, for taking this issue seriously and resolving it so quickly and effectively!

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    ncic commented  · 

    Thank you @rama
    Can't wait to try it out, unfortunately I don't see that particuluar release in the pre release section

    I only see an older 2023 version build.
    Also running this pre-release that is available gives me a "Your illustrator build has expired"

    These things happen identically on both my machines, my employers and the clients machine that have slighty different CC plans from each other.

    Thank you

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    ncic commented  · 

    ​​Thank you @Aishwarya G Gadodia
    for your response and for taking the time to address this issue.
    I also appreciate your patience as it took some time between work and the weekend for me to put this reply together with recordings and screenshots.

    I’m on
    MacBook Pro Apple M1 Max PRO 64GB RAM.
    macOS Sonoma 14.7 (23H124)
    Illustrator 2025 version 29.0.0
    Illustrator 2024 version 28.7.1
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium

    I managed to properly reset my preferences this time, and while I did notice some changes in anchor point generation on the accuracy setting, the core issue still persists.
    Initially, I was glad to see some improvement, but after closer analysis, it became clear that the problem remains—it’s just more subtle now and requires a more granular explanation.

    I’m including a recording from both before the preferences reset because other users seem to have the same problem and you can see what that issue looks like.
    That recording im calling “pencilTool-PRE-PreferencesReset.mp4”

    The recording after the preference reset is called “pencilTool-POST-PreferencesReset.mp4” which is the more relevant clip from now on and here follows an explanation.

    As someone who has used the Pencil tool heavily on a daily basis at its most accurate setting for almost two decades, I can immediately tell when something is off.
    After resetting the preferences, it may seem like the anchor point generation is back to normal, but it’s not. While it's closer to how it used to be, it’s still not close enough.
    See my recording in the “pencilTool-POST-PreferencesReset.mp4” clip and you will see what I mean when i say there is a difference in the point generation.

    I've also conducted extensive testing several times under the same settings and same conditions, and you can see in my charts how much anchor point generation has changed when comparing Illustrator 2014 (v28.7.1) to the 2025 (v29.0) version. Even after the preferences reset on the first accuracy tick.
    There’s a 35-40% difference in the number of anchor points generated for the same object, under the same settings and conditions.
    Please study my six charts in the image called “pencilTool-pointDifference-POST-PreferenceReset.png” of the point generation difference.

    (1) My hope is that we can fix this to get back to where it was and even better, as it’s still not the same as it used to be.
    Let's have a call and talk about it. I've mailed Rama the Engineering Manager and suggested a time for a call.

    (2) Additional notes. Im also hoping for further improvement on this accuracy aspect beyond what we are fixing now. Thid similar issue occurred in 2014 when the Pencil tool was rewritten, and Adobe was great about addressing it back then. While there was a fix made it wasn’t perfect, it was close enough than for me to further push it here in the forums. Unfortunately, this time it is even further from what it used to be and is wonky to draw with for someone who is used to the accurate pencil tool.

    The "0.5px fidelity, 0% smoothing" setting was originally my suggestion for the new first accuracy tick on the slider in the pencil tool options back in 2014 as this was the lowest value you could set it too when it had the numeric pencil tool options, however, this setting is just about adequate for accuracy but there is need for improvement for us who need more accuracy and more point generation. That’s why I’m also requesting an additional sixth tick on the slider, closer to "0.2px fidelity, 0% smoothing." See my feature suggested screenshot in my previous posts and my examples that show closer to inkscapes amount of point generation.
    I hope you’ll consider this and give the Pencil tool the attention and features it deserves for more accurately tracking the hand movement. I’m happy to assist further in any possible way.

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    ncic commented  · 

    @Egor Chistyakov

    Thank you for getting back to me

    I don't have such a "Live Feedback" option in my Pencil Tool settings for Illustrator 2025

    Please seee my attached screenshot

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    ncic commented  · 

    @Egor Chistyakov

    Can you and the team please go to one of my posts on the topic of the pencil tool that I've pasted the URLs to here below.
    There I have posted detailed examples with screenshots and comparisons and extensive text about it all.
    All you need is there on the pencil tools loss of accuracy.
    Please feel free to contact me for more assistance

    Here:
    https://community.adobe.com/t5/illustrator-discussions/ai2025-the-pencil-tool-has-become-unusable-again-there-s-no-accuracy-it-s-too-smooth/td-p/14922613

    ...or here:
    https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-desktop-bugs/suggestions/48973289-ai2025-the-pencil-tool-has-become-unusable-again

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    ncic commented  · 

    Happy to see you posting about this as well! I'll definitely upvote it to help bring more attention to the issue and mark it as "critical"

    I've also made two detailed posts about this topic in these places too.

    https://community.adobe.com/t5/illustrator-discussions/ai2025-the-pencil-tool-has-become-unusable-again-there-s-no-accuracy-it-s-too-smooth/td-p/14922613

    https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-desktop-bugs/suggestions/48973289-ai2025-the-pencil-tool-has-become-unusable-again

    Hope you will consider upvoting my posts too in hopes of getting some attention and getting this bug ironed out

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