Order of Text Appearance
Adobe Illustrator, it would be greatly appreciated if the text appearance is adjusted to have "Fill" placed above " Outline color" when adding a new fill.
This change would be particularly beneficial for users like myself who frequently use stroke attributes, especially for creating outlined text.
Please consider this request, and thank you for your attention.
Tmk S commented
Thank you for providing specific workarounds.
Setting shortcut keys also contributes to speeding up the workflow!
You said, "This seems extremely narrow and would be inconsistent with other objects with custom appearance..."
Yes, that's right. I was only thinking about the appearance of text (because it's more convenient that way). However, as you rightly pointed out, changing the default could have a significant impact on things like drawing paths. I understand that changing defaults is challenging!
In that case, it would be appreciated if the order of appearance could be changed with keyboard shortcuts. It would make the workflow smoother than dragging. (I hope the same applies to layers. (similar to objects))
By the way,
I've been using Adobe CC for about 8 years, and today is the first time I've posted on UserVoice. Before posting on UserVoice, I posted an improvement request on the Japanese Adobe Community, and a Community Expert advised, "You should post feature improvement requests on UserVoice."
Knowing that such active communication is taking place, I feel delighted. If I find any small improvement suggestions, I'll post them. Thank you!
P.S. After reading the two requests you shared, I found them necessary, so I voted for them!
This place is being monitored all the time and the team reads every comment — I do specifically.
I see and understand the intention you have. Stroke above Fill is a default order, and constantly rearranging it can indeed be tedious.
But you speak only about text... do you want this option, if this ever gets added, to affect the order of attributes only text? This seems extremely narrow and would be inconsistent with other objects with custom appearance...
When I first encountered this problem (long ago now!), I found another solution for this I use since then.
Instead of using stroke, I started using second fill and Offset Path effect for it (I have it assigned to Ctrl+Alt+O).
The benefit is that I don’t get holes behind the top fill.
The downside is that I had to open the effect’s dialog if I want to edit the value and can’t change several of them at once — but I have my workarounds for that.
Still, it’s a workaround.
Changing defaults though is dangerous... plus users often toggle options accidentally and can’t figure out what works wrong then.
Perhaps you might want to upvote these two requests:
1. Allow Aligning Stroke to Inside and Outside of Text — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/31416682
2. Alt + New Fill/Stroke button in Appearance should add one below current fill/stroke — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/34858339
I think each one of them solve the problem you have on your own.
Thanks for raising this up!
Tmk S commented
Thank you for your prompt response.
I am pleasantly surprised to receive a reply to my first request so quickly!
The intention behind my request is that when adding a new fill to the text appearance, currently, "Stroke" is displayed above "Fill."
I believe it would be more convenient if it were the opposite (with "Fill" above "Stroke"), as it would save a bit of effort in rearranging the order each time.
It's just a small wish for it to be handy.
True, Ai does not allow to place the stroke below the fill when you work at characters level of the text — if I get you correctly.
The current workaround we have is to assign the stroke attribute for the text at the object level. This makes the stroke to be unified for all characters, though.
Is this what you mean?