Improve Graph / Chart tool
Current graph tool in Illustrator has many limitations that need fixing. Following are some of the problems in Graph tool:
- No value labels
- Data window that requires you to remove characters such as commas
- Resetting of chart upon making changes
- Resizing issues (e.g. with bounding box)
- Missing basic chart types like *****
- No support for templates
- Also the tool doesn't support making new chart types, such as attaching data to any attribute of the artwork.
Please share your thoughts on the following:
1. Would it make sense to have a separate desktop app, just to create charts, and bring them inside Illustrator or InDesign? It may not be on cloud.
2. Or would you rather have us work on building it within Illustrator?
Lindsey Thomas Martin commented
The graphing function is actually much older. I have been using since 1997 and it is virtually unchanged since then. I believe it was originally added to Illustrator 5 (Mac) in 1993.
Agreed. The tool has been practically unusable since its inception a decade ago. At least let us know if you've just decided to abandon it.
Someone below mentioned "Project Lincoln" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX1BBMyY1bc
That is what I want. Even a beta version.
I agree with @Ian and @Nicolaas. Ridiculous that using data to create graphs is still such an issue with an when illustrator is used extensively for this and the calls are clear that it needs to be improved.
The UI is so antiquated and subpar. Honestly, it's embarrassing for a company that prides itself on UX to ignore this for so long. Not even simple improvements, just completely ignoring the issue for what, well over a decade? There isn't even a functional alternative within the Adobe suite. This is the only way to make charts in the Adobe workflow. It's crazy.
Please fix this Adobe. I don't know how much longer I can put up with this before moving to a different suite entirely as 50% of my time in illustrator is spent using this infuriating tool.
Ian Aberle commented
I agree with @Nicolaas. This feature still feels like a CS2 version than a CC2019 version.
Nicolaas Klopper commented
Hi Yogesh, I notice that this request has been marked as "Need More Info" for nearly two years. The current version is still very substandard and not at all what I'd expect from an Adobe product. Please escalate this to a higher priority and get it fixed as soon as possible.
Thurid Wadewitz commented
I'd also prefer, like many, to have the improvement implemented in Illustrator itself.
I think it could look like the 3D-Extrusion-Effect-Window. On the left you have a window with an Example of the graph and on the right you have the settings. Under these two you have the Excel-Sheet with the data .... so that you don't have to flip between those menues any more.
When inserting the excel-Sheet, you get a preview of your chart in the window. Then, by clicking at the elements, you can set the formats for every item.
I would like this inside of Illustrator - just an improvement of the existing tool. And having graph styles would be very handy
I agree, this is a very useful tool but it sits in stark contrast to all the other features that have been included and updated in Illustrator over the years. Typically if you format any element of a graph (say the line widths or font styles) they revert to ugly over sized text or thick rules if any new data is added. Colors are a mystery, with black forcing its way back into the palette even when other colors are used, again when new data is added, and the interface looks like it belongs to Illustrator 3. I could go on... please have a look at this tool and update.
Just an user commented
Inside Illustrator. Enough with the extra apps and plugins craziness.
Sam Loy commented
I would rather have the tool within Illustrator improved, to be able to make full advantage of the illustrator styling tools.
Update Illustrator Variable tool to allow the ability to:
1. Bind variable to individual objects within a graph not just a graph as a whole
2. Bind variable to multiple copies of 1 object and be able to vary each copy (individually or together based on selection) by dataset
Update Graph tool to allow the ability to:
1. Import CSV or XML with variable dataset so a user can copy a graph design X amount of times and toggle through the dataset to display variable graph data without having to manually create X amount of individual graphs and individually change the data X amount of times per graph
2. Add Percent symbol to the end of totals in column design
Hi is there any update on this? I have a template with formatted charts/graphs that need updating weekly. I would love to simply link my excel file which updates from our DB weekly and have my charts/graphs update.
Or is there a workaround for when I have to manually upate data for charts/graphs that the formatting is lost? I update data for 10 charts a week and each time I lose all formatting.
Any answer is appreciated
chart styles. templates. yes.
Richard de Garis commented
Sorry, I would add that an absolutely key feature is automatic chart updates, as the source data changes - be that some form of dynamic link to Excel, or to a data file (.csv?)
Richard de Garis commented
I'm agnostic to the 2 options posed by the original poster. What's important to me is knowing that the charting tools and capabilities are being brought into the 21st century. I'd really like to be in a community loop on what to expect and when - and to try things out in beta testing. I'm trying to move from Excel, but the current option is just not compelling.
Please, update and renew the diagram toll in illustrator. The tool isn't state of the art and needs renewing (preview function, better handling with numbers, more options, less bugs). I make infographics for many years and also teach infographic design, but the possibilities in Illustrator are unfortunately insufficient.
Many users are waiting and waiting for an update. It would be a great help to designers if the diagram tool could be renewed. Illustrator is a great application, but the diagram functions are not good.
Thank you very much
Peter Hamill commented
The graph function has never been updated. It is clunky and functions poorly (e.g. on a combo graph including bar and line graphs, the second axis cannot have the value numbers customised to users specifications).. It'd be great to have some new graph functions after all these years, decades even, with no thought been given to improving the graphing function.
I guess no update on Project Lincoln then, huh?
Miles Stevens commented
Yeah assuming Project Lincoln still stands, your suggesting is being addressed :)
Such tool is being developed by Adobe. Have you heard of http://data-illustrator.com?
It's in early stages. The problem with the char tool inside Illustrator is that is really destructive as soon as you start formatting. It is good for small charts, but it is unusable when you need to keep it linked to more complex databases.
Meanwhile, I would look at Datawrapper, Flourish, RAWGraphs, etc.