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141 votesResolved (Comments Open) · 55 comments · Illustrator (Desktop) Feature Requests » User Interface · Admin →Lindsey Thomas Martin
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Please share your thoughts on the following:
1. Would it make sense to have a separate desktop app, just to create charts, and bring them inside Illustrator or InDesign? It may not be on cloud.
2. Or would you rather have us work on building it within Illustrator?
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YogeshAn error occurred while saving the comment An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin
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The graphing function is actually much older. I have been using since 1997 and it is virtually unchanged since then. I believe it was originally added to Illustrator 5 (Mac) in 1993.
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You might want to explore providing the data-entry portion of the app. or function as an editable, exportable, and printable table rather than a modal window. Importing or pasting data from, say, Excel goes without saying but being able to create tables in Illustrator and either format them as tables for use in illustrations or to use the data in them to generate the graphs strikes me as an approach with a lot of potential. It is much the way Excel works.
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[1] There is an enormous market here and I have been perplexed that Adobe has left this function--poorly written code from the 1990s--unimproved for so long. This may be because those producing graphs form a small subset of Illustrator users. Perhaps this is an argument for a separate application.
[2] There is a sweet spot in the market for a graphing app. (or an improved, integrated function in Illustrator) from Adobe that takes advantage of the company's expertise with graphics, type and colour to distinguish the product from complex and expensive programmes designed to manipulate data but in which the quality of the output is a secondary consideration.
[3] Integration with SVG is important[4] Access to the code for scripting and automation would be ideal.
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[1] The resetting of the chart upon making changes and the awkward data entry are the chief drawbacks for me though the other points made above are spot on.
[2] I make up graphs (hundreds each year) in Illustrator, despite the frustration caused by the many defects of the graphing function, because I can place the graphs in InDesign and update is automatic when one uses Edit Original; and because it gives me access to the Adobe Type Engine. If you can build a separate, desktop app that retains those features, I would be happy to have it. But, having the other tools in Illustrator to enhance the graphs is also useful. I'm not keen on an app. in the cloud.
[3] In a separate app. the ability to place the graphs for print and export for web smoothly and easily is important. Integration with CC Libraries would be very useful.
[4] I will be happy to test a new app. or improved functionality in Illustrator.
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23.0.3 on Mac. Similar behaviour all the time. The most troublesome error for me is that, when one changes the font family in the Type panel, the font style will not stick and gets set, usually, to the lightest or thinnest style. One has to close, re-open the panel and reset the style before it will stick, doubling the time it takes to make what should be a quick, simple change. This behaviour was reported in detail for earlier versions and has not been fixed. I don't understand why this doesn't have your full attention as the Adobe Type Engine is one of your top competitive advantages over competing programmes.
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Yes, always reverts to 12 pt.. Also, often when one changes the face, style will be set to thin even if, say, regular, is chosen. I have to go back and set style to regular again.
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Hi Wes,
Thanks for explanation. I got it. This is a feature request, so I am moving this thread to feature request section.
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AnishAn error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin
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This is another of the limitations of the graphing tool to be added to the list at Improve Graph / Chart tool. There is a limit on the size of numbers that can be input in the data panel and, as discussed here, the override settings. I often have to manipulate the units of the incoming data to work around this limitation.
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AdminSanjit Samanta
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Dear Users,
We have launched this feature in the latest release of Illustrator, 24.2. I request you to try out this feature and give us your feedback.
Thanks,
SanjitAn error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin
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This restriction is clearly an impediment for a sizeable group of users. I was wondering why it seems that the engineers might not be able to do this easily and came across this bit of info. about PDF in the FAQs at CADzation.com: 'In PDF Versions 1.3 (Acrobat 4.0) and earlier the maximum PDF page size was 45" x 45". In PDF Version 1.4 (Acrobat 5.0) and 1.5 (Acrobat 6.0) the maximum PDF page size was 200" x 200". In PDF Version 1.6 (Acrobat 7.0) and newer the theoretical PDF page size is 15,000,000" x 15,000,000" but in reality most programs do not properly support any sizes above 200" x 200". Our … programs do fully support them but many others including Adobe Acrobat DC as of this writing do not.' I wonder if Illustrator is held back by Acrobat or Adobe's cross-company implementation of PDF.
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We have the fix available in the latest release. Please update Illustrator using Adobe Creative Cloud application to the latest build for version Illustrator CC 23.0.
Please refer to our knowledge base FAQ – https://illustrator.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1844590 if you face difficulty in update.
Or get in touch with us at any of the other support channels – https://helpx.adobe.com/support.htmlWarm Regards,
Ashutosh Chaturvedi | Sr. Quality Engineering Manager – Illustrator
Adobe. Make It an Experience.An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin
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Thanks for writing this up. The behaviour of text and styles is so odd that I haven't been able to figure out where to start testing. This may be an anomaly of the graphing function but I find that text to which a para. style has been applied loses its connexion to the style even when I haven't modified it or updated the graph.
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Starting from the February 2024 release, version 28.3, this option is no longer enabled by default for new documents. If you had hyphenation enabled in an existing document, Ai will respect this.
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There is no true PDF Export in Illustrator, because Illustrator allows to have editable PDFs with .ai-content stored within. Other apps does not allow that, and some users heavily rely on editable PDFs.
Attemps to solve this were made, but there is no clear solution so far. Still we hope to find one.
The intended way to get a PDF (without loosing your data) at the moment would be to use Save a Copy command that saves a separate copy of your file to PDF instead of Save As which keeps a saved file open.
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Hi Everyone,
This functionality is available in our latest release build – 27.6.1.
Illustrator remembers the last preset used for saving PDF files and keeps it as the default preset.
What's New in the release - https://helpx.adobe.com/in/illustrator/using/whats-new.html
Thank you for all the feedback.
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I checked in today to see if Adobe's engineers were paying attention this thread, which has been running since August 2017. Apparently not. They have, however, managed to break something else: the highlights on items selected with the group selection tool now (version 25.2, Mac OS 10.14.6) do not get turned off when one switches to another tool and clicks.
I had a look at the tutorial for creating cheerful dead bar graphs and I think it illustrates why there is no action on this feature request: the folks at Adobe don't know that graphs are data-driven.