Improve Graph / Chart tool
Current graph tool in Illustrator has many limitations that need fixing. Following are some of the problems in Graph tool:
No value labels
Data window that requires you to remove characters such as commas
Resetting of chart upon making changes
Resizing issues (e.g. with bounding box)
Missing basic chart types like *****
No support for templates
Also the tool doesn't support making new chart types, such as attaching data to any attribute of the artwork.
Please share your thoughts on the following:
1. Would it make sense to have a separate desktop app, just to create charts, and bring them inside Illustrator or InDesign? It may not be on cloud.
2. Or would you rather have us work on building it within Illustrator?
Paul A. H. Bunyar commented
1. Would a separate app make it easier for Adobe to concentrate on getting these issues fixed quickly? Some comments in the stream say it hasn't changed since Illustrator 5. Actually the chart tool hasn't changed since about version 1. A separate desktop app would be fine as long as I don't use much of the functionalities found in Illustrator that relate to creating, modifying, updating, or reformatting charts.
2. Fixing, improving, evolving the chart tool within Illustrator would be fine. But if this is going to take years instead of months to tackle because of the other complexities having to do with other improvements within Illustrator, then make it a separate app.
Good question. There are pros and cons. While I can appreciate the desire to keep this function in Illustrator, and thus part of current subscription plans, my questions is this: How can Adobe create a better charting tool soonest, and how do we avoid getting so far behind the times again? If a separate app means that the tool gets updated more frequently, that's the way to go. I would guess that 95% of Illustrator users never touch the chart tool, but nearly all of those who do are extremely frustrated with it. I've talked with several people in our industry, and everyone has the same set of frustrations with it.
I'd rather have in Illustrator.
Especially with your comment "it may not be on cloud" does that mean it won't be included in part of grade of cloud subscription the last thing I need is to pay for another item.
Please update this tool. While I appreciate the presence of this tool - I'd like it even more if I could resize the graph. Other chart types would be appreciated too!
Look up the opentype font Chartwell, seal the things it can do? Make illustrated to them.
Also, enable interactive elements for charts. This goes along with making illustrator SVG files compliant with the SVG standard.
See Isaiah’s comments and change in-house financial industry to in-house designer for scientists. Large amounts of complex data to deal with here. Data entry into Illustrator is most often a nightmare. Please revamp so that we can efficiently work. Thank you.
I have not been using Illustrator for very long, but I recently came across some tutorials for making graphs using the CC Chart Tool. On looking for it in my program (Illustrator CC 2017), I have discovered that you have stopped offering it. The latest information I can find is from 2015, which implied that you would be working on it and improving it. I'm disappointed that 2 years later, it hasn't got any further. The graphs options in Illustrator are in need of updating anyway - it looked like you had the makings of a really good improvement.
Candidly, Illustrator chart tool should be able to do almost anything that Excel can chart. The reality of working for an in-house corporation is that the designer will be given data via MS Office, like it or not. So it's pretty unrealistic to go back to a product manager and tell them -- our Adobe software doesn't understand your data unless you change this, change that and format it this way. The alternative is to become and Excel master, so that you can prep all of your data and format it "just-so" so that Illustrator can graph it. Even then, manual workarounds are often necessary. This tool is antiquated and needs a complete overhaul. Anyone who works as a designer in the financial industry has run into these issues.
Tomas Amsrud commented
I would prefer to have the graph tool inside Illustrator.
Benefits with "inside illustrator" would be:
- easy to combine graph with illustrator objects
- easy to have same style between regular illustations and graphs
- keep the possibily to break apart a graph when special needs
Would it make sense to have a separate desktop app, just to create charts, and bring them inside Illustrator or InDesign? It may not be on cloud.
Or would you rather have us work on building it within Illustrator?
Please share your thoughts.
Shane Smith commented
Don't even get me started with the graph tool. You improve it but only give the improvements on the cloud! WTF! The tool hasn't changed since Illustrator 5 I believe. Hard to use, can't use negative numbers on stacked charts, ability to use 2 different types of figures without making 2, connecting lines on line graphs, moving items around and having them stay there if you update the data, easier way to make styles… the improvements this tool needs is endless.
I hadn't been asked to create a graph in nearly a decade. Imagine my consternation when I discovered that the chart tool had not changed at all in all that time.
Tomas Amsrud commented
After creating a graph, it is often useful to resize it. If changing the width-height ratio, it now resizes unproportional.
It should be a way to resize a graph correctly.
The chart tool is our "go-to" method of creating bar graphs/line charts/pie charts, etc. for printed materials. Unfortunately, it isn't easy to use...at all. For example, when we are making a chart with a category axis that includes years (e.g., 2010, 2011, 2012) Illustrator automatically assumes that those are numbers to be charted unless we add quotes around them. This is an arduous process, to say the least. Also, when pasting data from spreadsheets, Illustrator refuses to draw the graph until we strip out commas between thousands. Another problem: when graphing percent, there is no where to tell Illustrator that this is a percentage. So if the spreadsheet data says 15%, Illustrator first requires that we eliminate the % sign. This means we have to convert it in the spreadsheet application, which then changes the number from 15 to 0.15. So we have to manually convert the number in the spreadsheet, then paste it back into Illustrator. A tedious workaround, to be generous. Another suggestion: please add data labels as an option. Currently, if we want a series of bars to show the data label, we have to use the type tool and add it manually. Ugh. I have been using this tool for over nine years, and the chart tool makes my job very difficult sometimes. I love Adobe CC products, but this is a LONG overdue update. Thanks!!!!
Pie Chart Graph Tool should alert user when sums do not equal 100 for numerical inputs. Currently, one can input integers that do not equal 100 and risk looking like an idiot in front of the accounting department. It is very misleading to have a complete pie that doesn't actually equal 100.