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    David Burkhart commented  · 

    Egor, you might be right. I have never specifically tested group-member locking for this specific behavior. But, I do have experience with having to release group-member locks in order to affect those members when repositioning an artboard. Otherwise, the locked members remain unaffected, allowing the transformation to only affect the rest of the group. A pop-up warning appears (attached), confirming this as expected behavior. I perhaps expected a little too much when I presumed this behavior would be consistent with lower-level containers (layer and group). I just tested the mentioned artboard behavior; and, it still works the same (whew!).

    So, to recap, I can reposition a group containing a locked member, which will also reposition the locked member. But, if I reposition the artboard, the same thing will not happen. As with any inconsistency, this will be difficult to remember and deal with.

    Since my recent revelation that group-member locks have no effect when working with the group, I am considering the possible uses and reasons for supporting this behavior. I suppose the behavior either way could make sense. But, it should be consistent with the the way it behaves at the artboard level. And, the ability to select a group containing a locked member should also be more consistent. While I can select any group by clicking on the path or fill of any unlocked members, the only way to select a group containing a locked member thru the Layer panel (palette) is to select the Layer. This, of course, will most often select more than just the target group.

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    David Burkhart commented  · 

    I have a similar using Illustrator 27.9 on Windows 10, 64-bit. Only, it is not limited to multiple-layer groupings. For me, locks no longer have any effect within a group. For example, if I draw a circle, draw a rectangle, group the two, and lock either one, I can still move or delete the group.

    A possible work-around technique for some is to use sublayers instead of groups. Sublayers are less ideal and much less convenient. But, they may get you by until the bug is resolved.

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    David Burkhart commented  · 

    As of version 27.9, this is worse. Now, locking an object within a group serves no purpose. I can now select and manipulate the entire group, regardless of any locked objects within it.

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    I am happy to share that we have fixed this bug in our latest release – 26.1.0 which is available worldwide now.

    Going forward, our goal is to fix as many top User-Voice bugs as possible and as frequently as possible. Given the nature of the fixes, some of the bugs will take a longer time to fix, but we are on it.

    You can update to the latest release using Creative Cloud desktop App: https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/help/creative-cloud-updates.html

    Thank you for all the feedback. Keep it coming!

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    David Burkhart commented  · 

    The object-level locking issue has popped-up again, showing similar issues, as of Illustrator 27.9. If I lock an object within a group, I can now select and manipulate the entire group along with the supposedly-locked object. I used to be able to only select the entire group when selecting the layer, but not manipulate it. This was a handy shortcut for making a copy of a group without having to unlock a locked object within it. But, now, locking an object within a group is pointless.

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