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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    M1 and Ryzen 5XXX are tearing in single core performance. I don't say this is enough or acceptable, just that maybe adobe will rest their case with that.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    @Oskar I'm afraid the superior per core performance will be another reason for Adobe not to care.

    In PC we can only get this level of single core performance only from Ryzen 5600X and abode for now.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    Ah you guys must be new here :P I don't expect it to be addressed before 2027, maybe even longer.
    At least if they don't care about illustrator they can lower the price to something like 5$ per month...

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    We have a saying here for when you have the animals chained on the cart they won't go anywhere.

    Same with adobe, they believe they have us chained on illustrator because it is an industry standard by now, but they forget that even quark xpress was an industry standard and failed to deliver and ultimately lost to indesign.

    I stopped using illustrator once I started my freelance career, it just doesn't worth the cost now that I'm asked to pay this myself and at the same time the only way for it to work better is for me to pay even more money to buy newer and newer and newer hardware with little improvements because the rest of the world have moved on with multicore and GPU computing and the per core improvements are just a small cog of any machine now.

    The only reason I'm here complaining is that I really want this program to improve and even return using it if it get better (or I don't know, stay like this and reduce the price and I could keep it around for smaller things?), I don't want my years of experience with illustrator to go to the way of the Adobe Flash.

    That being said I make my money with affinity right now and as long as I can export PDF files for printing nobody complains for anything.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    Andy there is nothing to discus with adobe, they just need to do something and make illustrator multithreaded and add some serious GPU computing. Plain simple request, everybody else have done this already and they don't even have adobes resources.

    Affinity added GPU computing in the last version and it is literally flying with the most basic GPUs.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    All in all I think the bigger problem is the subscription. If they had to ask for our money for each update like the old times, they should have something to show to us to make use pay again.
    Now that the money flows no matter what, they don't care.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    you guys talk like illustrator is getting a ton of new features or something...

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    I have switched to affinity designer too, it just works. Especially with heavy files.
    The problem is the rest of the industry doesn't seem to follow and I still need illustrator to open downloaded stock graphics...

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    This thread is still going and illustrator still only see 1 core? Superb... Even TV sets and smart fridges now have multicore SoCs, yet illustrator still can't utilize more than 1 core...

    Since the last time I wrote here I have moved from a 6 core to an 8core system, everything is running faster except illustrator...

    Unbelievable.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    he means it's impossible with the pile of old code that illustrator is...
    really adobe with what the programs cost to use and with a never ending money maker like the subscription model should have already rewritten the program from the ground up to be a modern application with fresh code.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    Is that so? I guess then it is illustrator related, but honestly I could live with local save then lan backup if I could get other more significant problems of illustrator shorted out.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    Always work on the local disk, even if you have an HDD is always faster.
    Working over a network is very likely to keep you at a 100Mbit rate (if for example you use for LAN the modem/router of your ISP).
    Even if you have an ethernet hub at 1Gbps, it need to be good enough to deliver this 1Gbps on every port at doublex rate.

    This is not an illustrator problem.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    I know what you mean, just returned my macbook late 2009 to OSX Snow Leopard and CS6 just because it is no longer usable with the newer OS and apps. I have lost something I have gained my machine back...

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    Filip there is no OS limitation, Windows and OSX both provide the means for multithreading.
    OSX have grand central dispatch and Windows have the same tech with a name that I don't recall.

    Actually a lot of competitive apps already have multithreading and use at least 50% of my 6 core system, while most of the time they go as high as 80-100% usage (in pdf export for example).

    The only limitation is adobe software, they need to restart and write from scratch getting rid of that behemoth from the nineties that they still develop.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    Yes please, rewrite the whole program if you have to. It is not like it is cheap or free. We need tools that work with our hardware, we can't afford both adobe suite and upgrading our systems every year because illustrator fail to utilize more cores.

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    Nikolas Karampelas commented  · 

    Yeah I could love as well to have access to even ancient versions, I have a frozen in time macbook 2009 that I want to keep in isolation without internet with OSX 10.6 but it only run the very first CC version that is no longer available.

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