If you used the Microsoft Graph tool, you never realize you are using an external tool; it feels like it's part of the program you are in.

So, not a separate tool so much as a call-out to the same component in AI and ID.

Would be super helpful if the chart tool was built within illustrator but had more flexibility in formatting within its dialog box. This table dialog box has always felt obscure and represents bad experience. Can this be built with a palette that operates more like a pathfinder palette or transform palette, where you can more granularly understand what changes will happen when you make adjustments? Definitely wouldn't want to do this outside of illustrator.

Even simple tools like Column graph tool should allow more customisation, like
1. Putting main X/Y axis on top of bars, but still have Y values behind the bars (see the screenshot with the issue)
2. Sorting bars by name, size
3. Edit padding for bars
See also example: https://app.rawgraphs.io

I posted this years ago at this point, but I think it is worth repeating.

I like the Microsoft method for a graphing tool. For all practicable purposes, it appears to be built into each program but it's actually a separate "plugin" that all the Office programs can access.

I like the idea of being able to create a graph right in the program I'm in, such as InDesign, Illustrator, Captivate, etc.

Build within Illustrator. Fix the one that already has been built in Illustrator. Sliding graph elements are unique to Illustrator and would be great to keep but for the rest of the comments this needs urgent attention. Six years is way too long. If the sliding component of the graph tool could be maintained in an external or online app that would be okay but still would prefer it to be inside Illustrator.

Exactly, instead of all the nonsense tools Illustrator is overequipped with, add something useful, Adobe.

Time to get out the pitchforks people, I've just had it!

I agree with Paul Sternglass - there has been no improvement on the graph tool since it's launch and I have been using it since 1988.
Instead over the years Adobe have created tools that are more ways of doing the same thing. Do we really need a pen tool and a curvature tool. Shape builder tool - lovely but you can do the same thing with the pathfinder functions - there are many more examples I could go on
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us a graph tool with a preview tick box, the ability to import Excel files without having to faff about with .csv files and the ability to keep it's formatting when the graph data changes would be nice for a start. How hard can it be?

Correction Ian, there have been no improvements since 1987! Chart function has NEVER changed, and I have been using it since about 1990. People have been complaining about it for more than 30 years. Do something Adobe, anything!

Thanks, @Jonathan. That Chartwell tool is pretty cool—using fonts to may charts?!? Genius!

I thought the whole point with the cloud stuff was for Adobe to be more agile in their releases. I cannot believe there has been no improvement in this chart tool since 2017.

Well, Adobe Max is later this year, so maybe…

Six years later and absolutely no progress on fixing the graph tools.
Still need more info??????????
Want the tool in Illustrator fixed - not a new tool

Found a pretty decent alternative, a font using open type options.
Not cheap but if you do a lot of graph work it could be a good time saver, thus money maker.

https://www.vectrotype.com/chartwell

It would be easier not to have to go out of illustrator, but if it makes it come faster and if it comes free with illustrator, I think it would be ok for me.

Theresa, same. But I decided not to post it, because it’d require me to post it in EVERY request and report here.
Happy New Year to you as well!

Hi Friends,
I saw this yesterday and thought of y'all.
Happy New year!

https://xkcd.com/2881/

I'd prefer to see the app improved within Illustrator.

I just want to resize a bloody chart – is that so much to ask?
Just add it to illustrator, don't need a seperate app.

Instead of buying up competitors, can you start adding useful and basic features to your existing products? Stuff AI, just let me do the basics – this has been requested since at least 2009...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/illustrator-discussions/how-do-i-resize-a-graph/td-p/1992399

At this point, any movement from 1997 would be beneficial. The longer this goes, the options are coming out to not use Adobe apps for it period. I think this is more of an internal model discussion, but if a separate app is proposed, I'd hope it gets the same effort behind it that XD got. If it's more like Dimension where the primary feature that everyone wants (modeling your own 3D asset and not relying on expensive stock assets), then I'd want it built into any of the apps.

I think a separate app could work well, but I would love to be able to transform graphs and charts in Illustrator without distortion. Like a "smart transform" where you can scale horizontally or vertically and the chart, labels, and legend will automatically resize to the new dimensions. I'm not a fan of having to manually resize and scale everything when changing the ratio of the chart.