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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Yep, can confirm that.
    Placing the SVG with Snap to Pixel enabled immediately repositions the points of the placed artwork, as if as I clicked 'Align selected art to pixel grid' button. Not cool. Placing ≠ creating!

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    Robert, how do you 'place' the artwork specifically? With File > Place command?
    Can you share the original SVG file also? Please rename it to .txt to bypass UserVoice’s draconian security measures.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    It’s even more interesting than it seems!

    The current official reference (https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/tool-techniques/star-tool.html) provides very little on the Star tool, a pathetically small amount. Does not mention modifiers at all.

    So I just googled 'Illustrator Star tool Alt' — and found this page — https://krankykids.com/cheatsheets/illustrator_cs6/shape_tool_star.html.

    It explains some modifiers, but does not mention the way to create an 'interwoven star' at all.
    This small video by Monika Gause explains this 'special kind of star': http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/48207539

    So we can’t learn about it officially, and can rely only on chance and word-of-mouth.

    Thinking about this more, I realized that the behavior is not exactly a bug... at least not as it seems. It’s that Illustrator toggles the 'interwoven mode' on its own when the star created 'crosses' a threshold — being regular and three-spoked — even though Cmd/Ctrl is not held...

    I spent some time experimenting with this more.
    I discovered that one can exit the interwoven mode while still creating a star by pressing Cmd/Ctrl + Opt/Alt once, for any number of spokes — except for 3 and 4.

    Pressing Opt/Alt will regularize a star, interwoven or not, for all spokes again — this times except for 4 (while three works 'OK' — resulting the exact same self-doubled triangle).

    You won’t be able to if the 'triangle' is secretly interwoven, unless you hold Cmd/Ctrl — which will pin the outer radius points.

    Rediscovering all of this feels like being a baboon in an alien ship :)
    This is fascinating. Monika Gause commented on the three-pointed stars: 'You do not use the star tool to make a polygon', but not because this won’t create one, but because it creates something else — take a look at the GIF attached.

    I still have no idea why I can’t disable the interwoven mode (with Cmd/Ctrl + Opt/Alt) or regularize a 4-spoked star (with Opt/Alt)... but that’s another problem.

    And speaking about this case — well, today we learnt that the Star tool creates interwoven stars and not triangles, and the interwoven mode is automatically toggled when a three-spoked regular star happens.

    We were just using it wrong, and Ai never told us about it.
    Hope it helps.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    It turns out this bug isn't new and isn't caused by the recent introduction of the Live Star... it's rather old and was there long before 5 last years. It doesn't make it any less broken, but at least it's not a recent incident.

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    Wow. Good catch! Indeed, a regular triangle made from 3-sided star, build with the Star tool (with Opt/Alt held), becomes a doubled triangle, a continuous path folded on itself. You don’t have to cut it with Scissors, it’s enough to just drag one point away.

    Happens only for triangle, and only for a regular one.
    So — let’s be fair — it’s not 'completely broken' :)
    I do agree the overall quality is not at all Ai deserves it, but the Star is one of more polished late releases... Hope this gets fixed shortly.

    Checked it — does not happen if Polygon tool used instead.

    Meanwhile, to workaround this one can click Add button once in the Pathfinder panel. This will make it into just path instead of live shape, but it’s easy to revert with Object > Shape > Convert to Shape.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Can you please report this on video, to make it clear for the team?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Am I right thinking it’s no longer a problem?
    I am checking Swatches > Patterns > Basic Graphics > Basic Graphics_Dots, and it’s there and has the swatches in it.
    Can you verify or deny it, please?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Can you share a simple test file with one such a symbol or an object with a pattern or a brush applied?
    Next — what are the options in your Preferences > Clipboard Handling? Does toggling 'Include SVG Code' change anything?
    What are the Color Settings? What is the current color profile for the document, seen in Assign Profile dialog?
    Do you have any auxiliary apps installed that deal with the clipboard? Managers of any sorts?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Jan, is this still a problem?
    Try to figure it out, but don’t exactly follow the steps.
    Can you elaborate on these?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    You are welcome, glad it helped!
    I prefer to use artboards and to export parts into separate files — but this leads to resampling.
    The white-multiply-flattening trick allows to keep the original resolution, so is viable in some cases it’s important.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    There is no native automated way to cut the clipped image into separate pieces based on the compound clipping mask, but there are simple methods to achieve this.

    1. Take a look at the GIF attached.
    You’d have to unclip the group again, release the compound path, fill the pieces with white, set their blending mode to Multiply, select the image and the now invisible fragments together, and use Flatten Transparency. In the dialog choose maximum Vector and Preserve Alpha Transparency. Other parameters does not matter.
    Ungroup the result to remove the background part, and now you have your cut fragments.
    Notice that each piece is clipped to fit exactly into the dimensions the original mask.

    2. You can use a free PuzzleClipper script by Alexander Ladygin: https://github.com/alexander-ladygin/illustrator-scripts/blob/master/puzzleClipper.jsx
    You’d have to unclip your piece, release the compound path into separate shapes, select the image and the paths on top together, and run the script. Each path on top will become a clipping group with a copy of the image at the very bottom.

    The script won’t automatically trim the image to the bounds of each piece though — each piece will get the full copy of the image at the bottom.

    Please comment back if it works for you.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Can’t replicate this on Windows 10.
    Is there a difference between point type and area type? between having the bounding box enabled or disabled?
    Are you able to move anything with arrows keys? or with Move dialog (hit Enter while having Selection tool active to call for it)?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    MJ, do you refer to Beta versions or to the normal builds?
    If the latter — what version do you use now specifically and when did you have the issue with preferences not transferring the last time?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    A more general request about having OKHSL now exists:
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/48203333

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    Oh yes! We definitely need to boost gradients, and this is not the only thing we can improve them with. We also need easings, anti-banding solutions, annotator on strokes, exact copy-paste capabilities, etc...

    But for this one there is one external script solution, Gradient Blender by Sergey Osokin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FG0g5yDm8
    It does not explicitly convert the gradient into a new color space, but it calculates the new stops required, in three different interpolation modes: OKLab (same as is used in newer Photoshops), HCL, HSL.

    So far it works for me and I'd like to know if it suits you, for now, until Ai team make this one a default thing.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    A similar request would be about LCH in gradients:
    https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657-illustrator-desktop-feature-requests/suggestions/45171784-lch-gradients
    The Gradient Blender script, mentioned in one of the comments, supports OKHSL, along with OKLAB, — but this is for gradients only, while this request is about Color Picker specifically. I’d love to have this for Color panel as well.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    While it’s still not possible natively, it is now possible with the plugin effect, Make Shape, from the AG Utilities group, by Astute Graphics.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Related to a somewhat similar request:
    Introduce a way to control the cross-section for 3D Inflate profile
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/48196169

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    It is related to this request as well:
    An ability to create custom bevel profiles for 3D and Materials Extrude
    https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/47686964

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    I tried to see if using a Bevel and Extrude would work to have less flattened look.. it does indeed, but it obviously adds sharper corners than inflate does.
    For me the idea makes perfect sense, and It’d be happy just toe get a second value to control the curve, similar to how it's done in a lesser known Xara (but for blend profiles, see the GIF)... it does not offer the same for the bevel profiles (and has presets only), but does allow to make the corners smooth )the second GIF).

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Good one.
    Some definitely would prefer Beta be the lead one, others would like the GA build to do it, same as you.

    I suffer form the same thing, but I solved this for myself by working in Beta (but I just have to, basically :)
    Before that, I used the same workaround as you (and juggling preferences was always a pain).

    I am pretty sure it’s out of the hands of the installer... It’s OS who registers the file associations... BUT there are apps that handles the control over it to a user. And a related problem is that Windows does not really distinguish these two apps when the have the same major number — discussed previously here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/46183132

    Plus I shared a simple trick one can use to hack the system.
    Would you mind me merging your report into that one?

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    Bothersome indeed!
    Glad it worked, and yes, the order changes exactly like you describe.
    I have a strong suspicion it can’t be really controlled by Adobe, and the only way of fixing it would be to rename the EXE file into 'Illustrator Beta.exe'...
    Actually, I should compare the behavior with Photoshop...
    Anyway — thank you for reporting this.

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    This happens because Windows can’t distinguish these two apps, they have the exact same name and the major build number.
    If you have the ordinary version of Illustrator open, files you try to open will be opened in this version, and not Beta. Actually, this is the same reason one can’t launch Beta and non-Beta Ai on Windows, if the major build numbers match...

    Try this trick.
    Close Illustrator.
    Locate 'Illustrator.exe' (the Beta one) and rename it into, say, '_Illustrator.exe' — it won’t break, don’t worry.
    Then try to open an .ai file. Windows should open a normal Ai.
    Rename the Beta Ai back.
    It helped me several times to trick Windows into rewriting some registry entries, I suppose.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I totally get what you mean, since I create these as well.
    Yes, AxoTools supports 0 for both tilt and turn value, allowing you to generate side views basically.
    Plus it provides lighting-shading options, stroke options, etc. Recently it added stacking options, holes, pop-art symbols (advanced stuff).

    If you have to create this a lot, I really advise to at least try it. I’d grab it even for only one job, it’s that effective. Not flawless, but so much better than creating anything like this with scripts or actions or manually — or waiting for Adobe to start looking in this direction :)

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    I’d suggest to look at ingenious AxoTools plugin for that functionality

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Please provide your OS version, Ai version, and the tablet driver version.

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