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An error occurred while saving the comment It’s no about outlines per say, but about the difference between a hole cut in something versus something layered on top.
It’s easier to test with a simple black background and two identical white circles (in the attached file): one is white on top, and another one is punched from the background.
If you compare the rasterization, you will see quite different results, as in the screenshot attached.It’s been there since the very first version. Most probably happens because of the way rounding works. As I see it, with separates shapes Ai rasterizes each one and then combines the results, blending them into one raster image (it probably happens way more efficiently though), but with holes cut being it gets rounded not 'outwards', but 'inside'. I don’t have the actual confirmation on this but my own experience, but yes — it’s being troubling me since day one.
It’s good to have a post on the topic finally.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Melissa, does it happen only with duplicating an artboard, or with the objects as well?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Keegan, can’t replicate this, on a Windows machine, using both the Beta and normal builds. Having the CTB opened with the Artboard Tool picked still allows me to create a new artboard hugging a clicked object...
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An error occurred while saving the comment There are many things that seem very obvious to have, including this one, yes :)
The problem is there are so much of us users, and obvious things just pile up. UserVoice helps a ton to flash these out, to raise awareness and evaluate demand. It takes time and willingness to upvote. Nice to see you here, Renan, please comment and upvote more. Bring friends :)An error occurred while saving the comment Yes, Renan. I thought UV has a request on this, but it seems nobody asked for this here.
Meanwhile this is possible with Dashify live effect from Astute Graphics (see the screenshot).There is a related request, if you are interested:
Allow the option to have dashed strokes be able to start with gaps
http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/48461876AdminEgor Chistyakov
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An error occurred while saving the comment It seems to be the same exact problem as described here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/illustrator-discussions/issue-with-finecut-9-quot-two-or-more-sets-of-register-marks-quot/m-p/14014946
Specifically: "if the register marks and the cut lines are both the same spot color ... then Finecut will think there are multiple sets of register marks. Change the color of your cut lines and the problem should resolve."
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An error occurred while saving the comment Glad it worked.
I understand the frustration.
But it’s fair nonetheless. While it seems like an extra step, it’s not. 'Expanding a shape' means only converting it into a path — with no modifications like removing handles. Basically Ai just drops the stored definition of it being live, rip offs the label.
And handles are most probably required to avoid having the widgets drawn for each new point and keep them drawn only for rays.
Ai has to keep them, because otherwise it won’t be able to convert the resulting path into the same live shape, if one chooses. If you try to convert a path with reduced handles (using the Simplify method) into a live shape, Ai will do it wrong, seeing twice as many sides and no corners at all...
Not sure if this can be easily fixed.To the second part — when I try to call Object > Expand for a live shape (being it a star, or a rectangle, or an ellipse), the dialog appears for me... but the 'Object' option is disabled. I personally think that Ai should allow to this common expand dialog for expanding live shapes, but never cared enough to make it a request. But you say it just doesn’t pop at all?
An error occurred while saving the comment Lourens, this is interesting.
I was able to reproduce what you see, and this is what’s happening.
When a star gets expanded, the inner points of it have handles, even though the segments are straight (take a look at the screenshot attached).
Since Illustrator does not STORE the data on corners, but RECOGNZES them in any given path, this combination of handles FORCES it to see original corners you made when modifying a live star. So Ai converts the live star into a just path in a CONSISTENT manner (which is fair!)But now to make it show corners widgets for the actual corners, you can remove the handles (exactly what you did manually).
There is a faster way to do it!
Call Object > Path > Simplify, and click the 'cog' button, to open advanced settings.
Enable 'Convert to Straight Lines' option and reduce the threshold to zero (just like the second screenshot shows).
This will force Ai to remove all the handles without removing any points.
Press OK and there you have it — all corner widgets are there for all the points.Does it work for you?
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Help Bar is available only in the latest Beta (starting with 29.2) and Prerelease builds so far. As soon as the team decides it’s ready to be pushed into main build, you’ll be able to get it. At the moment you can install Beta build from CCD app, or just wait.
An error occurred while saving the comment The team informs it will be eventually rolled out to everyone in phased manner.
At the moment this is shown to new/first time install users — for now. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Renan, CorelDRAW does the order of steps differently. First you select the stuff you want to be clipped, then invoke a command, enter a dedicated mode, and then pick a path that’s going to be a clipping path.
The new Object on Path does a similar thing for picking a path to distribute objects on. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Johnny, I bet this doesn’t happen anymore with the latest version.
Can you confirm it? If not — can you share more details on how it looks for you today and what are your specs exactly? -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Sometimes Ai crashes several times in half an hour for me, yes. And sometimes it stays fine for several days...
I know how maddening Ai can be, but the team won’t be able to do anything if you don’t provide at least something: OS specs, steps taken, workflow details... how does it crash specifically? do you get a crash reporter? do you get any files restored? any error messages? -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Please send some of the files to sharewithai@adobe.com, so that the team can see what make them different enough to fail when read.
Put the link to this report of yours somewhere in the body of the email also, for tracking: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/49106132 -
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An error occurred while saving the comment I wonder which one do you treat as 'incorrect'. Both are fine to me! The one on the right uses ligatures, the one on the left is set with individual glyphs.
You can control if you want to see ligatures or not with Window > Type > OpenType panel, by toggling Standard Ligature button in the left bottom corner of it. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment Does this problem still occur with latest builds?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Orlando, did you have anything like this with the latest builds of Illustrator?
Was this problem ever solved for you?
Katie, in case you have the file still — can you share this fragment of it, please?