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AdminAvinash Singh Kotwal
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Adobe Illustrator's Multithreading Journey Begins!
Dear Illustrator Community,
I'm thrilled to announce that we've embarked on an exciting journey to bring multithreading capabilities to Adobe Illustrator. This significant undertaking will enhance performance and responsiveness across various aspects of the application.
While this is a complex process that will take some time to fully implement, I wanted to share our progress so far.
Our Approach
We've strategically begun by focusing on the most computationally intensive operations—those that typically take more time and block the main thread, resulting in slower response times while you work. By moving these operations to separate threads, we aim to significantly improve your overall experience with Illustrator.
It's important to note that you may see more noticeable impact in some areas than others initially. However, we want to assure you that this is just the beginning, and we will continue this journey to bring improvements across…
An error occurred while saving the comment An error occurred while saving the comment I need multicore support for actual vector work. When I do complex work, or use the Shape Builder, Illustrator can get so slow that I have to wait 30 seconds for my changes to take effect. I don't use Illustrator for raster artwork. I don't place raster artwork in Illustrator files. I use Photoshop for raster artwork, and I use InDesign to combine raster and vector artwork. You know, the programs that are designed specifically for these purposes, unless I missed something. Improve the actual Illustrator core functionality performance, please.
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That article sounds great. I sure hope it happens, and doesn't get obliterated by Adobe's corporate and legal juggernaut. I'm sick of having the price of this software jacked up every few months. I'm also sick of this huge shift toward AI, without having improved the basic functionality issues of so many Adobe products.An error occurred while saving the comment @Seth I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes I get massive raster files that have to be traced and manually cleaned up, then I have to use the shape builder to optimize it. It can get to the point where it takes a minute or two between operations, just waiting for Illustrator to do something. The final file is usually just a few MB, but you wouldn't know it from the way the program responds to future edits. By then it is 100% vector, but still as slow as molasses. I haven't had a crash yet, from that type of scenario, but I know it is only a matter of time.
An error occurred while saving the comment I would have loved to have uploaded a problem file in the survey, but they are all property of my clients, and I do not have permission to share them.
An error occurred while saving the comment It is still horribly slow and laggy for complex illustrations. I have noticed no real improvements in any capacity. Again, I don't need Illustrator to save more power for other tasks. I need it to be responsive, quick, and smooth. I don't think I can fill out any more Adobe surveys without swearing. Fix. The. Performance. Issues. That's all we want.
An error occurred while saving the comment "1. General improvement in the application's responsiveness: By making background running tasks such as document back-up, snapping computations more efficient, we are leaving more power for your computer to do other tasks. "
I don't need Illustrator to free up more power for my computer to do other tasks. I have (at present) 15 cores that are twiddling their thumbs while Illustrator does something. I guess I can try to do some video editing in Resolve or Fusion... I don't use After Effects (or anything else Adobe) for video editing, as the multithreading is so abysmal. As soon as someone makes something that is a full replacement for Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator, with GPU acceleration and multithreading across the board, I am very likely to jump ship.An error occurred while saving the comment How is working to "take advantage of threads" different from making something multithreaded? I built my first multi-cpu system in 2001. I had 4 cores by 2006. I've had 16 since 2018. I was thinking of upgrading to 32 or 64 (the max my motherboard supports), but none of that increase in power would do a thing for Illustrator or InDesign. It's a good thing that my system also does video editing, or I'd be wasting those cores entirely on Adobe's 1990s-era program technology. I was willing to be sympathetic for a few years, but we're halfway through 2024. I hate monopolies...
An error occurred while saving the comment Thank you for responding, Avinash. I know it seems whiny, but there are plenty of times when Illustrator simply can't keep up with the users' expectations and workflow needs. Being told by customers that I need a newer computer, when I'm using 1 or 2 cores on an 8 or 16 core system, gets a little old. Plus, it's embarrassing.
An error occurred while saving the comment @Neff
You're absolutely right. I had a piece of signage (3 panels) I was working on, and it ended up slowing down to the point that I would have to wait several minutes for an action to take effect. Still, the newest CPUs have about a 70% higher IPC than my TR. I'm using an RTX 3090ti for the graphics, but a 4090 would be about a 30% improvement to rendering there. So, instead of waiting 5 minutes for something, I might only be waiting 3? It's still a disgrace.An error occurred while saving the comment @whstlblwr
Nope. Still single-threaded. ~8.2% on my TR. An Intel i9 13900k (or other) or AMD Ryzen 9 7950x would be best right now, because of their single-threaded speed, but I'm not going to build a new system just to sidestep an issue that should be fixed. And it's still a waste of the other cores being idle. Why not just go back to single-core cpus? That's what Adobe seems to be suggesting...An error occurred while saving the comment @Stuart Chesters
Yeah, Affinity Designer is looking mighty good right about now. I've been waiting 10 minutes for a rather simple process to complete in Illustrator. I'm part of a small outfit, so our cancelling the Creative Cloud subscriptions will only cost Adobe about $1200 a month. Still, considering the number of votes for this feature, a lot of other people must be getting pretty fed up, too. I'm going to buy Designer for personal use tonight and see what the learning curve is. Affinity Publisher seems pretty nice, (I bought it about 2 years ago, and have played around with it a bit) so I am expecting good things. It'll be a pain not working in native ai files, but I can put up with an eps workflow.
It's painfully obvious by this point that the people who write this software don't actually have to use it on a day-to-day basis. I had an embarrassing experience this morning when a client came in and requested some layout alterations in real time. Well, InDesign and Illustrator basically froze for about 10 seconds with each change. I was waiting on the programs, not the other way around. She suggested I ask for a new computer...
I built my first multi-cpu system in early 2001. It's nice to think I was over two decades ahead of Adobe, and counting.
Sorry for spamming!An error occurred while saving the comment Just waiting for an "added to backlog" message from Adobe. Like with InDesign GPU acceleration for Windows over a year ago. I'm always eagerly anticipating that feature with each update, and utterly disappointed when they completely disregard it. The lack of multithreading with Illustrator (and a bunch of other Adobe programs) is even worse than the lack of GPU support for InDesign in Windows, since this affects literally everyone...
An error occurred while saving the comment Also using pathfinder in Illustrator and it's taking me forever. At home, on my Threadripper 3955wx, I only get about 6.25-10% (just over one core) of cpu usage, and it is driving me bonkers. At work I can get 12.5-20% usage, but that still equates to fewer than 2 cores on the i7 9700k. Why should we be penalized for trying to run Illustrator on machines that are set up for things like video processing/editing, as opposed to single-core intensive things like gaming? I am planning to upgrade my home system to a Threadripper 5975wx reasonably soon, but it'll have very little impact on Illustrator performance. This is embarrassing! My ancient dual Opteron 290 system only gets 25% cpu usage with Illustrator. I built it in 2006. It is now 2022. What is the holdup? Affinity programs run multithreaded just beautifully. Maybe we all need to migrate over?
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The fix is pushed into Global Availability build 28.6.
If it misbehaves still — please comment back.
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740 votesAn error occurred while saving the comment I had the same problem on a customer-provided file at home. I needed to perform substantial edits to it, and had almost finished, when this happened.
System:
Windows 11 Pro
AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 3955wx
128GB 3200MHz DDR4
Nvidia RTX3090ti
4TB Seagate Firecuda 530 RAID10 root drive (4x 2TB)
4TB Seagate Firecuda 530 RAID10 file drive (4x 2TB)
400GB Intel DC 5800x scratch disk
Aside from that, now whenever I mouse over a path in this file, Illustrator freezes for about 10-60 seconds. On the computer I use at work, it would freeze for up to 3 minutes, and it crashed 3 times while trying to select anything at all.
I have tried going back to an earlier (functional) iteration of the file, and this eventually happens again. I tried to create a new file and selectively copy over paths, and this eventually happened again. -
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433 votes
Starting from the February 2024 release, version 28.3, this option is no longer enabled by default for new documents. If you had hyphenation enabled in an existing document, Ai will respect this.
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666 votes
We have done further updates to Dimension tool with recently released version - 28.3
You can create and use your custom scale for dimension, hide or show units on dimensions and dimensions are now sticky to the object - they transform as well when you transform the object.
@ rbajgo
I understand using Illustrator the way you described for customer files, (which are often a nightmare) but I've been doing design and print for 24 years, and when I set up something from scratch, I use Photoshop for raster, Illustrator for vector, and InDesign to do the overall layout. Sure, I sometimes do raster effects in Illustrator, or text layers in Photoshop, but my primary workflow is as I described. When I have to edit a customer pdf, like you mentioned, I almost always use Illustrator. Most of the pdfs we get now are made in Canva, so that is a new can of worms. I do more design and physical printing than actual prepress work. I hope it stays that way.