"Hyphenate" not be the default paragraph option
By default, paragraph text is set to hyphenate words that don't fit into the text box. I suggest that the default is to have text not be hyphenated so you can click the box if you want it to be.
No one I know has ever wanted hyphenated words in text, but you have to uncheck the "Hyphenate" box from the Paragraph Palette, it's annoying to have to do that every time I make a new paragraph or paragraph style. (same problem in indesign)
Starting with Beta 28.3.47 hyphenation is going to be turned off by default for all new documents, even if a user doesn't change the option manually for the basic paragraph style, as is mentioned in the previous status for this request. The status is going to be updated one last time when this finally lands into the main release. Again, thank to all who upvoted this for being active — and patient.
Well that's a good way to start the week. Finally.(Edited by admin)
Small step for a man giant leap for mankind! :D
six years - It's finally done!
Tan Choon Hong commented
Steve Jobs set the standard for typography in computing. Adobe did well but hyphenation as default is so last millennium. At last they have awakened and the graphic design world is at peace...
Tan Choon Hong commented
I will truly miss occasionally waking up to 11 new emails from people complaining about the hyphenate default. I think of you all every time I have to uncheck that stupid little box. We should be proud of ourselves for sticking to this issue for so long.
It ended a long time ago for people who bothered to learn what a New Document Profile is. Whatever.
Levi Fink commented
I'm going to miss the angry comments that came in every few months. Our co-misery ends today 😔🎉
Paul Roper commented
Paul Roper commented
OH. MY. GOD. I never thought I'd see the day! It actually WORKS! 😁😁😁😁🥳🎉🥳🎉
Are you (Adobe) going to announce this as a press release? Or maybe devote an entire festival to this update? You have just made GAZILLIONS of user very happy, after DECADES of misery!
I'm not sure if this was a bad idea or brilliant.
Seeing as SOMEHOW I was able to get the Print.ai File keep Hyphenate OFF I opened Print.ai Changed the setting to be more "Web" - RGB, 1920x1080, Rulers pixel and Save that to my desktop as Web.ai.
I then replaced both Web.ai Presets. and it worked!
1. ~/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Illustrator ##/en_US/New Document Profiles/Web.ai
2. /Applications/Adobe Illustrator 2024/Support Files/New Document Profiles/en_US/Web.ai
Now if only someone from Adobe could do this for everyone else.
Other than those 3 main settings Colour, rulers and art board size is there something else I should be changing in this profile that i'm forgetting?
Kris, misconception or not. It's clear people are asking that Adobe set up illustrator for designers, not journalists. Not that it made sense in 1987, but we have InDesign for that now. They've had a decade to reevaluate their document profiles. Look at their customers needs and make adjustments. Remove the fluff, tweak this or that and be done.
Imagine if documents default Stroke setting was 10pt, default colour was a gradient, font was Times 20pt...etc.
Anyhow I have tried numerous times to FIX the hyphenation setting. Somehow, and Thankfully my Print.ai file seems to default to unchecked. But no matter what I do to save, save as, replace, delete, closed, open, custom, etc... the other files, Web, Mobile... hyphenate comes back.
Deleting all that "Cruft" is gone now :) so thats nice.
In the Paragraph Pallet there is a Reset Pallet butting the hamburger. Clicking that turns ON the check box. That said, if one can find and fix that, we might be in business.
I think it's a misconception that the reason why hyphenation is turned on by default is because, deep in the bowels of Illustrator’s source code, there is a 0 that should be a 1. The reason new documents have hyphenation turned is the same reason your Swatches, Graphic Styles, Symbols, and Brushes palettes are filled with a bunch of useless cruft: because Adobe set up the New Document Profile files that way. But you can change all that once and for all. Delete all the cruft from the tool palettes and turn off hyphenation, and your world will be so much happier.
Dina, a New Document Profile is not the same thing as the New Document dialog box. There is a folder on your system called New Document Profiles. In there is a set of Illustrator files that are the starting point for all your newly created documents, depending on which one you select from the pulldown menu in the New Document dialog box.
I think that turning off hyphenation alone is not enough of a change to register the document as being modified. So in addition to unchecking the box, draw a shape and delete it, so the little dot appears indicating the file has been modified. Then save the file and try again.
Dina Dembicki commented
@Sonja and Rick Wallace, I opened the file named print.ai in the library, unchecked the hyphenate box in the paragraph palette, but a new document still came up as hyphenated.
@Kris, is there a check box in the new document dialog box? I did not find one, even under advanced settings. That would be handy.
For the record, I agree with earlier posters that there are times when hyphenation on is critical. However, if I'm working with a lot of type in a long document, I'm using InDe, where I'm working with styles and can set up the style for hyphenation or not. For AI docs, typically I don't want hyphenation.
I'll try this today, but I also will say that I tried this several versions ago and it ONLY worked on a single preset doc size (then had to open document settings and change the artboard size after every new file). I don't even have your mentioned Illustrator folder under ~/Library/Application Support/Adobe/**missing**/en_US/New Document Profiles. Maybe it's hidden, I'll figure it out.
I suspect some people don't work 10-12 hour days under hot deadlines and don't need to streamline work a bit. This is bit like going to a restaurant and having to bring your own plate for them to put the food on.
> I do a lot of print, web and OOH work and have more doc sizes needed than I can count.
Why would that matter? If your New Document profiles all have hyphenation turned off, then no matter which one you customize to create your custom doc size, it will also have hyphenation turned off.
I suspect the people still complaining about this don't actually know what a New Document profile is.
On a Mac, it's ~/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Illustrator XX/en_US/New Document Profiles
@Kris although a good suggestion this still required the user to find the setting (which I can’t find) and make this change manually instead of it being the default from the get-go.
Can you tell me where I can find the new document setting?
"Toms fix" works if you want to create scores of preset/sized documents - I do a lot of print, web and OOH work and have more doc sizes needed than I can count. This is a super easy fix - they just have to change the value in one place on each app and we're good to go. I've previously suggested we start a fund-me to pay for a singing gorilla to show up at Adobe corporate with a "no-hypenation" message. Or how about I get 1000 stickers printed with the hypenation box not ticked and someone close to corporate goes and sticks them on every car windshield in the parking lot? I'll put in some dough to get this fixed.