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    2 comments  ·  Illustrator (Desktop) Bugs » Type, Fonts, Text  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Please accept my sincere apology for the inconvenience. Please get in touch with us at any of the other support channels – https://helpx.adobe.com/support.html . Since this is not a generic issue that we can reproduce at our end, we will need someone to look into your machine to figure out what is going on here.

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    3 comments  ·  Illustrator (Desktop) Bugs » Type, Fonts, Text  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    Under Review  ·  Anish Kumar responded

    Thanks for reporting this bug Illustrator Team really appreciate this.
    We are able to reproduce this issue in house and we are investigating it .

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    3 comments  ·  Illustrator (Desktop) Bugs » Type, Fonts, Text  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We have the fix available in the latest release. Please update Illustrator using Adobe Creative Cloud application to the latest build for version Illustrator CC 23.0.
    Please refer to our knowledge base FAQhttps://illustrator.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1844590 if you face difficulty in update.
    Or get in touch with us at any of the other support channels – https://helpx.adobe.com/support.html

    Warm Regards,
    Ashutosh Chaturvedi | Sr. Quality Engineering Manager – Illustrator
    Adobe. Make It an Experience.

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    Under Review  ·  Anish Kumar responded

    Hi,

    Thanks for reporting this bug Illustrator Team really appreciate this.
    We are able to reproduce this issue in house and we are investigating it .

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    AltGr is supposed to be equivalent to Alt + ctrl.
    At present, when we press e.g. AltGr + E while writing text, we check if any command can handle it and if yes it is not passed to application to handle key event. That’s why existing commands are triggered on those extended char shortcuts.

    If we want to change the behavior that while writing text key shortcuts (e.g. AltGr + E) should write extended character, Then we will have to sacrifice all the text contextual shortcuts we have at present in app e.g. ctrl + alt + I does something. All those commands would stop working.
    This is the reason why we are moving it to the feature

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    We have the fix available in the latest release. Please update Illustrator using Adobe Creative Cloud application to the latest build for version Illustrator CC 23.0.
    Please refer to our knowledge base FAQhttps://illustrator.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1844590 if you face difficulty in update.
    Or get in touch with us at any of the other support channels – https://helpx.adobe.com/support.html

    Warm Regards,
    Ashutosh Chaturvedi | Sr. Quality Engineering Manager – Illustrator
    Adobe. Make It an Experience.

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    John Bradley commented  · 

    Anonymous: as this issue has (incorrectly) been marked "completed", I believe they aren't even seeing our additional comments.

    I started a new thread here, which has also been ignored. Perhaps if it got a second vote they'd at least acknowledge it, though I have my doubts.

    https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-bugs/suggestions/33838000-text-handling-still-a-mess-in-22-1

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    John Bradley commented  · 

    Correction. Some of my complaints were introduced in CC2017. I just reinstalled some older versions, and see that I had to go back to CC2015.3 to have the character style not override the size of the paragraph text when left unspecified in the character style.

    --John Bradley

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    John Bradley commented  · 

    Text handling in the 22.1 build is still fraught with bugs and/or undesired oddity compared to version 21.

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    Open Illustrator 22.1 (Windows) and create a new blank document.

    Draw a text box and fill it with placeholder text.

    Create a new paragraph style (‘body text’) and set the font, size, and leading to something different from the default. (e.g. font: 10pt Avenir LT Std Book, 16pt leading).

    PROBLEM 1: Select a word or words in the text and change the style (by pulling down the list in the Character panel) to (for example) ‘Black’ instead of ‘Book’. The selected text leaps to 12pt/14.4pt leading, though it does stay in the chosen font.

    PROBLEM 2: Undo. The selected text reverts to Avenir Book, but stays at 12pt/14.4pt.

    PROBLEM 3: Undo a second time. The selected text goes back to the original state (Avenir Book 10pt/16pt), but the entire block of text is now selected (?!?).
    Deselect.

    WEIRDNESS: Select a few words, and change the style (again, to Black), but this time do it by clicking in the Style box in the Character panel and scrolling through the values via the mouse wheel or the up/down arrows – not by pulling down the menu and making a direct selection. The text correctly changes style without changing its size.

    Delete the entire text box. Draw a new one. Make sure the ‘body text’ style is selected in the Paragraph Styles panel and fill with placeholder text.

    PROBLEM/WEIRDNESS: The text displays in the correct style (Avenir Book 10/16), but in the Paragraph Styles panel the ‘body text’ line has a ‘+’ after it, indicating that the text doesn’t match the saved style in some way. Also, in the Character panel, the leading shows no value (empty space) in the control. And the pulldown menu in the Paragraph Styles panel has ‘clear overrides’ dimmed out...

    Further WEIRDNESS: If one then selects some words and opens the Leading pulldown menu (in the Character panel), it shows 16pt as the first item in the list (above ‘Auto’ and the list of default sizes), with a checkmark... it just isn’t displaying inside the text box.

    Close the document and Illustrator.
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    Start Illustrator and create a new document.

    Draw a text box and fill with placeholder text. Click outside the box to remove the keyboard focus (and cursor) from the contents, but leave the text box object itself selected.

    Create a new Paragraph Style in the Paragraph Styles panel, called ‘body text’, font settings ‘Avenir Book 10/16’.

    WEIRDNESS: The displayed text updates correctly, there’s no ‘+’ after the style name in the Paragraph Styles panel... but the Character panel still shows ‘Myriad Pro Regular 12/14.4’. De-selecting the text box and re-selecting it gets the Character panel to update (‘Avenir Book 10/16’).

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    Start Illustrator and create a new document.

    Draw a text box and fill with placeholder text. Click outside the box to remove the keyboard focus (and cursor) from the contents, but leave the text box object itself selected.

    Create a new Paragraph Style in the Paragraph Styles panel, called ‘body text’, font settings ‘Avenir Book 10/16’. Deselect and reselect the text box to get the Character panel correctly updated.

    Select a few words. Then, in the Character Styles panel create a new character style called ‘italic’. Set the font to Avenir, Book Oblique, but do not touch the size or leading boxes.

    Close the dialog box and click the character style name to apply it to the selected text.

    Select an entire paragraph (or several) that includes the italicized text. In the Paragraph panel, change the size/leading to, say, 8pt/20pt. Everything works as it should.

    Deselect everything and double-click the ‘italic’ style name in the Character Styles box to verify that the style displays no values in the size or leading controls, nor in the text summary, implying that size/leading are not specified and will not be affected/overridden by this character style.

    Select the previously italicized text. The character style name shows as ‘italic+’ indicating that the selected text doesn’t match its character style definition, even though it should.

    PROBLEM: Select some other text in the same paragraph. Click ‘italic’ in the Character Styles panel. The selected text changes size to 10/16, even though the size was explicitly not specified as part of the Character Style definition.

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    I could go on.

    --John Bradley

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    John Bradley commented  · 

    Create a new document. Draw out a large text box roughly the size of the page. Fill with placeholder text to “Lorem ipsum” it.

    Select the first paragraph’s worth of text. By default (on my system) it’s set to Myriad Pro, Regular, 12pt, auto (14.4pt) leading.

    Change the font size and leading to 16pt / 20pt.

    Select any word in the paragraph, and change the font style to ‘bold’ or anything else. It does, and behaves as one would like and expect.

    Undo that change.

    With the paragraph selected, click ‘new’ in the Paragraph Styles panel, and click the new style to make the selected text use it.

    Select any word in the paragraph and change the font style from Regular to Bold (or whatever).

    The font style changes, but so does the font size, reverting back to the 12pt / 14.4pt defaults.

    This renders paragraph styles largely unusable, if I can't override a word or phrase in order to bold/italicize it without having to manual set the font size and leading in the Character panel. (And any words modified in that way will no longer be tied to the font size/leading in the paragraph style, so if I tweak the overall sizing to fit the page, I'd have to re-tweak any individual overrides as well.)

    It didn't used to be this way, prior to ver 22.

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