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    Started  ·  Dirk Schulze responded

    Just a general status update. We are currently and will continuously improve SVG import support in Adobe Illustrator. We are currently working on solving the issues mentioned in this report. Please feel free to open new bug reports here on uservoice if you are experiencing additional/untracked issues.

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    Nick A commented  · 

    It is almost *THREE YEARS* since this thread was started. It's *TWO YEARS* since LM first commented about the SVG scaling problem caused by Illustrator's prehistoric adherence to using 72 ppi, which continues to erode the credibility of the program. So have any of these issues been fixed yet? Has everyone switched to Inkscape?

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    Nick A commented  · 

    Dirk,
    Yes, I think a simple adjustment of the dimensions written into the file would suffice as a first-step solution.
    Here is the header from an SVG exported from an AI file containing a 4in x 4in artboard:

    x="0px" y="0px" width="288px" height="288px" viewBox="0 0 288 288" style="enable-background:new 0 0 288 288;"

    Importing this into Madcap Flare results in an image being placed that is only 3" x 3" (i.e. 72/96 of the correct size). A quick test, by manually editing the SVG file, suggests it is the "width" and "height" values that must be scaled by 96/72 (=384). So entering 384 as the width and height causes the SVG to be placed/presented correctly as a 4" x 4" image in Madcap Flare. Changing these "presentation" dimensions in the header does not affect any of the numerical dimensions (absolute or relative to each other) of the actual drawing objects within the SVG file.

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    Nick A commented  · 

    Dirk: Many thanks for looking into this problem.

    Firstly, I think many people who have noticed the 72/96 ppi issue will also understand that exporting from Illustrator AI to SVG is a one-way process. As with any file type, we do not expect to preserve every detail or feature if we choose to export the file to a different format. Personally, I always keep my source files in AI format, and export to SVG for my target application (Madcap Flare).

    With this in mind, the first and most important step is to provide a scaling option in the SVG output dialog. It might provide radio-button options like this:

    Output scaling
    * 72 ppi: Maintains precision if SVG is re-imported into Illustrator.
    * 96 ppi: Compatibile with modern applications, but loses precision if re-imported into Illustrator.

    I believe this option would satisfy the demands of most users facing the 72/96 scaling issue. Illustrator would use 96 instead of 72 to calculate (or modify/rewrite) the bounding box dimensions written into the SVG file. It would be important that the 72/96 selection was remembered by the SVG output dialog, just like the other settings.

    As for the ability to "round-trip" SVG files through Illustrator, I guess people who need to work purely in SVG format, and the CSS standard of 96ppi, will have to select a more modern tool such as Inkscape, which uses 96ppi as its default.

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    Nick A commented  · 

    @McKillip: From my own investigation, I can confirm that Illustrator sets the bounding box pixel dimensions (the first dimensions seen in the SVG file) using a 72 ppi scaling. So a 10" wide artboard will produce an SVG file with the first width setting in the SVG set to 720px. This is a silly and very old-fashioned default scaling, since most other modern applications display/scale SVGs using 96 dpi . This means each SVG produced by Illustrator appears to shrink when imported into almost any other modern application. It would be ridiculously easy for Adobe to add a 72/96 ppi option in the SVG export options so it does its calculation correctly - with the default set to 96!

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    Nick A commented  · 

    Yet another fundamental feature that is often needed, but unbelievably lacking in Illustrator. Clearly, the billion dollar Adobe corporation can't afford another few developers to move Illustrator out of the 1990s at anything other than a snail's pace.

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    Nick A commented  · 

    Agree. Illustrator's unbelievably crude Arc "tool" (toy) should provide Start Angle and End Angle options, like CorelDraw has since the 1990s. Oh, and the completely free Inkscape naturally provides Start and End angles for arcs!

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    Nick A commented  · 

    The Arc tool is perhaps Illustrator's most incredibly useless tool. Back in 1992, I was using very basic CAD design software, and later on CorelDraw. They could both draw arcs using numerically entered start / end angles. We're now approaching 2020, and Illustrator's stone-age Arc tool still only draws 90 degree arcs. It is unbelievable that such a fundamental operation is not provided within the Arc tool.

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    Nick A commented  · 

    Illustrator also uses 72ppi when setting the pixel bounding box size within SVG files, so when importing its SVG output into another (modern) program, the SVG appears at 3/4 the size you created it! Adobe's attitude to this is that Illustrator has been around for 30 years, it's always been 72 dpi, so they can't change it [lies]. Adobe would rather ignore the 96ppi CSS standard than do any work to fix their archaic software.

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    Nick A commented  · 

    I agree, it is an absurdly complicated process to get rid of the plague that is Myriad Pro! In fact, just trying to get your preferred document template, with the correct default settings, to appear on the awful home screen is an unnecessarily irritating process. I expect many, if not most, Illustrator users are professionals who need to quickly set their preferred corporate font for all new documents... but Adobe makes this just about as difficult as possible.

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    Nick A commented  · 

    This is being pursued in thread "https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657-illustrator-feature-requests/suggestions/31209892-fully-support-the-svg-standard". A helpful guy from Adobe called Dirk Schulze actually seemed to be listening. However, waiting time for Adobe bug fixes is normally measured in years (or more likely, never) so if you have an urgent need for correctly sized SVG files, open Illustrator's SVG in Inkscape, and save as Plain SVG. Alternatively, open Illustrator's SVG file in a text editor and multiply the height="...px" and width="...px" values (near the top of the file) by 1.333. The SVG will then appear at the expected size in modern applications.

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