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AdminAvinash Singh Kotwal
(Principal Product Manager, Adobe Illustrator)
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Hi friends! I have some great news for your today. Rotate View (Canvas) feature is available in Illustrator 25.3 (Desktop) now. Thank you all for your feedback which helped us shape up this feature.
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Thanks Manuel Garcia for sharing... How can a single external guy can work more efficiently than a slew of developers paid (by ourselves) to do it? It's a great mystery ... But it's a glimmer of hope on Christmas Eve, because despite its great announcements, the months go by and Adobe still does not decide to make illustrator a real tool... to draw
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WHAT ??? I can't believe Abobe team has FINALY started to look into this must have feature ... If it ever becomes a reality, I will finally be able to be productive when I draw in illustrator ... Amazing!
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Anyway, they will NEVER add this function, which is essential for drawing on the graphics tablet ... Given the age and the number of requests, if they were able to implement this functionality, they would have done so a long time ago. I really believe that their software is too badly designed at the base and that today they unfortunately do not have the possibility of coding that. Obviously, they will never recognize it, but that is the only consistent explanation. Unless they really have nothing to do with their customers...
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They recently took care of debugging another important request (free distort bounding box)... But for some mysterious reason, regarding this feature (rotating artboard freely when drawing), claimed for longer and by 10 times more users, they continue to act as if it were neither important nor urgent. And they talk about a professional application ??? Hey, Adobe : Real illustrators need real tools! Your customers are in trouble (for years !!) with the software you sell them and you really don't care ? Get out of your lethargy and implement this BASIC FEATURE !
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And to reply at the previous comment, yes Clip Studio Paint is great. Cool vector brushes
and OBVIOUSLY the possibility to freely rotate artboard. Personnaly I use it to compense the lacks of Illustrator, but the problem is that one can NOT export work in a vector mode (ai, svg, eps...) No way. Vector drawing in CSP will stay vector mode only in CSP. Let's hope Adobe guys will provide to illustrators the tool they need (and that they pay for) before the world ends...An error occurred while saving the comment Paul S
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Adobe does not have the honesty to admit frankly that their Illustrator software is so badly designed at the base, that today they do NOT have the technical possibility to implement this rotate artboard function, however essential to illustrators... They still prefer to appear for people contemptuous of the needs of their customers...
OK Adobe... But in that event, provide at least your customers with another tool, even basic, which can allow us to draw freely in vector mode with a drawing tablet ... A mini software with just the functions necessary for drawing AND THEREFORE the possibility to rotate the artboard.
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Adobe does not have the honesty to admit frankly that their Illustrator software is so badly designed at the base, that today they do NOT have the technical possibility to implement this rotate artboard function, however essential to illustrators... They still prefer to appear for people contemptuous of the needs of their customers...
OK Adobe... But in that event, provide at least your customers with another tool, even basic, which can allow us to draw freely in vector mode with a drawing tablet ... A mini software with just the functions necessary for drawing AND THEREFORE the possibility to rotate the artboard.
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"Seriously who cares about a mobile version of illustrator. " ...Yes, indeed ! The only explanation I found for such nonsense is that the Illustrator code must be so badly written that it is probably impossible for Adobe developers to easily implement this basic function of artboard rotation... Providing a mobile version of this non-ergonomic software is perhaps the only way Adobe engineers have found to allow illustrators to finally beiing able to rotate their artboard.. by rotating the whole device ! What a pragmatism!
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Yes. It's probably incredible for Adobe team, but all the illustrators who are using Illustrator (and paying a lot for that) would really like to be able to draw with this reference software... I mean drawing with ease thank to the possibility to rotate the artboard as one can does it when drawing on real paper (or with Photoshop, ClipStudio Paint and so on...) How many year more will the illustrators have to wait before Abobe decide to fix this incredible lack ?
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Hi Yogesh ...
With two years of hindsight, what do you think of the answer you gave us in 2017? have you done any follow-up on this request since that time? Do you remember you use the word "shortly"? Also, can you explain the concept of backlog adding , please? Is it a kind of scribbling on a flying sheet that sleeps under the dust in an old drawer? At some point, did ANYONE at Adobe (you apart) has heard about this urgent and popular feature request SINCE SEVERAL YEARS ?An error occurred while saving the comment Paul S
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Thanks for your support guys ... I feel less alone in front of Adobe's lack of consideration for customers. I must admit that my comment was pretty sarcastic, but when you ask for decade for a product to be functional, and nothing happens, you must find a way to pull the seller from his sleep ... Moreover my comment has not been as harsh as it could had been ... I did not mention the other incredible shortcomings of this software, like - for example - the fact that we can not freely deform an object as it is done with great ease in Photoshop via the command "free transform" ... there is no equivalent function on Illustrator (one has 3 or 4 tools that can not even do as well than the tool available in photoshop! ) And dealing with these tools is unbearable because (when you don't have to work in a tiny popup) the frame and the handles are reset each time one of them moves. OK the distorsion occurs, BUT we have no real control over the distortion to make it match with another perspective object. Of course we can work around the problem using the perspective grid but it's a longer process and not very intuitive, and boring if you have just one element to deal with. I'm fed up to get around problems while a developer could implement this function in in half a day! And the software is at version 23! Hence my very relevant question: has Adobe already had this software tested by real graphic designers?
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AH AH AH You are faster to censor the comment than to implement the basic features that hundreds of customers have been asking for years!
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Adobe call this "Illustrator" and after 23 versions NO ONE at Adobe staff never had the idea to implement the rotate canvas fonction ? Have you ever involved one real illustrator in the project to ensure "Illustrator" allows to draw illustration, using classic tool like pencil or brush ? Personnaly I don't know any illustrator who don't need or don't like to rotate his sheet to find the better angle to make his strokes when drawing. Hey, adobe guys, on what planet did you spend the last 25 years ? Do you design this soft for the illustrators or for yourself ? Stop staying in isolation between commercial and developers and start listening to the real needs of graphic designers and illustrators! If you do not know one, contact me!
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Hi Everyone,
We have improved the working experience of Free Distort tool. Now the bounding box will not reset! This functionality now is available in our latest release build – 24.1.1 for Win and 24.1 for Mac which is available worldwide now.
What’s new in 24.1: https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/whats-new.html
You can update to the latest release using Creative Cloud desktop App: https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/help/creative-cloud-updates.html
Thank you for all the feedback
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I precise this feature (freely rotating artboard in Illustrator) has 517 votes... VS 57 votes for the enhancement of the free distort bounding box. Difficult to understand why you prioritize a feature that is 10 times less in demand than another! But hey, for once you act, let's rejoice anyway ...
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Thank you for making this important tool finally usable! Now Adobe, please implement the possibilité to FREELY ROTATE THE ARTBOARD when one drawing. Every real Illustrator (maybe you know one?) will explain you this is an essential and basic feature when it came to draw. And it is requested for a decade !
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Indeed ! And this makes the tool very painful to use and almost useless! What a waste of time and what lack of precision. I'm really surprised that there are not more graphic designers who complain about the absurd operation of a tool so useful (and that works so fine in Photohop) ... For me, the only explanation such a gap in a software which pretends to be the standard of the graphic industry is that Adobe never solicits the feedback of real graphic designers or real illustrators for the development of "Illustrator". Considering the price of this software, I think it is shameful.
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If it was the only problem... Have you ever tried to "free transform" an object like you can do it with Photoshop in a breeze ? Free Transform tool (Free Distort) resets the handles to the rectangular bounding box after each handle drag ! Super convenient to adjust a deformation! But did Adobe internally have the distortion tools proposed in Illustrator tested? there are 3 or 4 but all are tedious to use and very incomplete. Please, Adobe, put all this in the trash and replace these useless things with a single tool effective and intuitive ... exactly like the "free transform" of Photoshop! Speak to real graphic designers and they will show you how to make real tool !
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So it’s obviously not fixed, and we all know it.
While the cursor gets changes into the horizontal/vertical two-headed arrow, the center handles for the bounding box indeed don’t appear, if the width/height of the art (here just an orthogonal line) is small enough.
Please continue to share you thought, screenshots, GIFs. It’s time to re-review this again.
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43 votes15 comments · Illustrator (Desktop) Feature Requests » Effects, Appearance, Graphic Styles · Admin →
Thank you for reporting the issue. We have added the issue to our backlog.
With Best Regards,
Raghuveer SinghPaul S
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Hi,
As VincentvE says, there is a needs difference between those doing illustrations and those doing packagings. For the first ones (illustrators) they don't care about rules : they only need to finally be able to draw efficiently and in a natural way by rotating the artboard like one can do it in every drawing software, even the most basics.
For the second ones (who do packaging) it would be good if they could have access to these rules at any time. But in my opinion, if the rules work like in Photoshop, they will be of no use to them! In Photoshop, the zero stays aligned with one corner of the artboard and the measurement scale varies over the rotation, (in a way that seems completely incomprehensible to me, and in any case completely unnecessary for mesuring anything!) So, no : if you implement the rules with rotation fonctionality, they must perfectly follow the rotation of the artboard ... otherwise they will be just decorative ...
And if the rules remain aligned with the document during its rotation, not only will they be usefull for something, but in addition one will be able to use them to set guides other than blindly... because in Photoshop, if you place a guide (before or after the rotation), the ruler numbers vary completely while you rotate and therefore makes them irrelevant.