Selling older products at lower price based on their version
Copy of what I posted here https://forums.adobe.com/message/10555191
I want to make a suggestion, it might be profitable for Adobe. (IDK where to post it, but like a feedback)
1st of all, big fan of illustrator, and quite loved it when I used it for arts that captivated even my teachers
Examples of what I did on my free time:
Vector Artwork - Group 57 CyberCap by thunder-of-light on DeviantArt (made 2 head-shots per day, and I am the only one with colored eyes)
Ben Franklin taking a selfie by thunder-of-light on DeviantArt
Take note I really, REALLY hate piracy (I am the supportive type), but I also dislike that some things I can't even afford or even access (no internet at my place, so monthly payments are out of the question for the time being).
- I want to actually buy a legit copy of Adobe series, one it gives me joy of support to the creators, and I don't feel down when using them.
I got little to no money, but I wanted to save up for such programs.
I do not trust E-Bay, Amazon, and the sort, bad experience of buying illegal copies at first, had to report them but got no money back. Never bought once since then.
Anyhow to the main point of my suggestion:
Selling older products at lower price based on their version on your website. In a way it's a form of anti-piracy, it does encourage people to actually buy a less risky platform, and even add some level of support, not only to adobe but most people's self confidence.
I would love to at least see your starting programs, might be relics, but they did start your business. (I do keep some relics games at my place, even an old Pokemon yellow cartridge, due to fond memories).
Reason why it is important to me, is that I studied with Illustrator, Photoshop, and even Flash, yet while trying to experience the "Free" variety (such as inkscape)... it doesn't really give the same shortcuts for work.
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Bjorn Suß commented
today i am at work in need for using adobe illustrator , i took my a bit older mac to work with mac os 10.12.06 too work and wanted to download illustrator quick for use at work , i came to the constatation that there is none older download available :-( this is NOT DONE espessially this cost money and i can't use it... i think its mandatory to have a page with older versions for costumers like myself
especially for such a big firm like adobe , ITS NOT AL ABOUT TAKING MONEY its ALSO ABOUT THE SERVICE U PROVIDE TOWARDS YOUR CLIENTS -
Mark Nicoll
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You're right. Do make sure you speak dirrectly to a customer support agent. I had an issue where the 'current' releases all featured a show-stopping bug with a critical feature, and needed access to an older version. They were able to help in that instance.
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Renato Pontual commented
My Illustrator 2020 / 24.6 was crashing on startup, so i decided to delete and reinstall it.
Now i can't find on Creative Cloud the same version (2020/ 24.6) to download.
I've been informed by customer service that Adobe no longer provides previous versions of the apps. I never received any information that the company would no longer provide the older versions and now I can't reinstall the version I had on my computer. My OS doesn't support updates anymore so I can't install the latest versions of Illustrator. Customer service only provides base version 24.0 for offline installation and I can no longer update to version 24.6. An absurd, as I'm paying to have what I can have in the conditions of my equipment. EVEN SO THE VERSION OFFERED BY YOU HAS A BUG IN THE FIRST INTERFACE (start working page), AS YOU CAN VERIFY IN THE ATTACHED IMAGE.
I think this Adobe policy of not making old versions available will make customers like me migrate to pirated apps!!!! Great Adobe!! -
Matt
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I actually found a way to do it. In the Adobe Admin Console-->Manage Enterprise. There is a bar across the top with different options. One of them is called "Packages." There you can create your own installation package using the Adobe Templates. Select your product, then "Customize" and change "App Versions" to include "Older Versions." Now I can pick any version back to 25.0 to package up. It is really a piece of cake and I don't know why nobody in Adobe support notified me about this during my three days of escalations trying to find the downloader for our version. Wake up Adobe Support. Know your products.
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I have no idea how legal this is, but this site provides direct download links to older applications that keep working if you have a license
https://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cc-2018-direct-download-links.html
I agree — as long as you purchased the license you should be able to use older versions. This is my point of view, as always. Otherwise users go pirate. -
Matt
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Please make version 25.2.1 available again for either direct download or in Creative Cloud. We use this specific version and were assured by Adobe that it would be available for at least another year. It is now disappeared from Creative Cloud and Experts tell me that it is not available for download. This version is essential to our business. Thank you.
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Lisa Bewley
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I need to have other, earlier, versions available. I have machines that run on 32 bit and I need an earlier version of illustrator to run.
Please make earlier version available to those who need to keep our other machines running. -
You have to open Creative Cloud Desktop, locate Ai, click three dots, choose 'Other versions'
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Anonymous
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It has been automatically upgraded to 2021 version but some of the add on functions do not work. How do I downgrade to 2020 version?
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Nikolas Karampelas commented
Yeah I could love as well to have access to even ancient versions, I have a frozen in time macbook 2009 that I want to keep in isolation without internet with OSX 10.6 but it only run the very first CC version that is no longer available.
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Anonymous
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Not sure where this belongs. I am disappointed Adobe does not make older software available for download. In production environments changing software yearly is not practical. Custom scripts are optimized for a specific version and "upgrading" software is usually of no value since we are not working with any of the "spiffy" new features anyway.
Another reason AI CC 2015 is important to our workflow is how it works with the Adobe EmojiOne font. This font renders ONLY in color on the latest versions of Illustrator. But in AI CC 2015 the font renders in black and white. Why Adobe has chosen to disable the black and white emojis is beyond me. There are MANY reasons it should remain available.
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Doug Milllhoff
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Support for older versions of Illustrator. I often need to open ancient files, and I have clients running Adobe CS and earlier.
This planned-obsolescence scheme is out of control.
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Vasily Hall commented
The problem is, the old apps work on old computers, ones which are no longer manufactured or supported.
Have you checked out Affinity software? For your needs and constraints this may be the viable option. -
Thunder Nova
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oh yea, forgot to edit the links for the deviantart images for the examples (can;t seem to edit my post... hmm)
Group 57 -> https://www.deviantart.com/thunder-of-light/art/Vector-Artwork-Group-57-CyberCap-509770546
Ben Frank -> https://www.deviantart.com/thunder-of-light/art/Ben-Franklin-taking-a-selfie-510560501