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    Can’t reproduce it from scratch :/
    Please tell a bit more about these projects.
    RGB or CMYK?
    Do you export them in a cloud managed folder or not? Does it differ if you try another folder or drive?
    Do these have raster images in them?
    Does this continue to happen when you try o re-export these, or is it random?
    There are so many things that can affect this... perhaps you can just share a project? Email it to sharewithai@adobe.com for the team to look at (in this case mention the link to this report, http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/49510841) or just attach it here in comments.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Ah, this explains it.
    The bug is still valid though. I don’t think the contents of documents profiles should matter here AT ALL.

    A similar report, but for items from Libraries was reported here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/48296216

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    There is a reported bug report about making an asset pulls additional artwork into it, despite it being hardly related:
    Adding an asset to the Asset Export panel adds another object with it
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/37794772

    Have you ever seen something similar?

  4. 5 votes

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    The team has started working on this request. As a first step they want to understand the requirements correctly and build the right feature set based on the feedback gathered.

    If you are willing to discuss area calculation in a call session, block a time slot here: https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/c1b7ecea1cbd42a2a7068cfeb7861bdd@adobe.com/meetingtype/Fn8tXNebh0eyv4xTnvQ-3Q2?anonymous&ep=mlink

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    Frank, there are two separate existing requests about this:

    one asks to calculate the area specifically for the Dimension tool, so that we can stamp the art on canvas — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/41789197

    another one is about having this information for each selected object automatically, like in the Document Infor panel (with the Objects option selected in the panel’s menu — right now it has only the length, not the area) — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/38673499

    Which one do you feel I should merge this new request into?

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    The latest Illustrator release - v29.3 now offers Area Calculation using Measure Tool:

    • Select the objects in your artwork you want to calculate the area for.
    • Select the Measure Tool from the Toolbar.
    • The calculated area will be displayed in the Info panel, shown automatically.
    • Shift + Click on a segment in the existing selection to remove/add it to area calculation.
    • Configure measurement options by accessing the flyout menu of the panel. You can customize units, precision, and scale to suit your requirements.

    Please update to v29.3 from your Creative Cloud Desktop application and keep sharing your feedback!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    No-no-no, it’s not completed.
    I don’t agree with this statement.
    It’s VERY basic and lack a ton of things.

    No area until you pick the tool. No live text, no compounds shapes, no clip groups or objects within one, no mesh, and even no area for objects without a fill — why should I add one to calculate it? It’s not 'ink coverage', it’s 'area'!

    Made it a separate entry: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/49526816

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Not at the moment, but the team is aware of the need and is still exploring the way to allow it.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Jean-Michel, it’s not the Dimension tool, but the Measure tool!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Chris, same problem as before — the tool does not support area calculation for compound paths at the moment. Even if there is no hole / cutout. Hence the Beta.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Chris, the team confirms the wrong values is a known conversion error and the fix will land in the next Beta. So far only points get calculated correctly.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Oh, I see now clearly what is happening.

    First, it seems that for now it doesn’t support compound paths AT ALL, making it near useless.
    The only path in the EXIT sign is the head, and it’s separated from the base (that is a compound path).

    Same goes for the blue EXIT — each letter is a compound path (which is normal when you Create Outlines), and even though they have no paths included to have holes, it’s still restricted.
    But even if these get released to become simple paths, the calculation is all wrong.
    When I measure the I letter in EXIT, it’s 14.394 × 84.667 mm, the area of it should be something like 1218 mm², minus rounded corners...
    But it sees 3488.81 mm²...

    The green head is roughly a 15.665 mm wide circle... so it’s 46.8² × pi, and it should give 192.73 mm²... the panel shows 546.45!
    Something is wrong.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Area of a circle is pi multiplied by a diameter of a circle, no big deal to calculate it. If you want to automate the process — you can use custom plugins like Dynamic Measure by AstuteGraphics.

    The other thing is if you want to control the size of the circle by entering the desired area. Like 'create a circle with area x' or 'transform a circle to have the area y'. Is that you want? Plugins can’t do that so far.

    Still, there are methods to automate it, like actions to create circle presets, libraries, so on. It’d be easier to understand the request if you provide some examples you want to create.

    Anyway, bezier ellipses are not real circles, but a good approximation. So no ACCURACY is possible anyway :)

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    There's the Document info palette, which gives this information partially, and I have a bunch of scripts that calculates complex area with holes, overlapping and other peculiarities, but native way, in document units, would be great.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Bobby, here's a script I've assembled to quickly get areas and perimeters:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujtj1smsvd304rw/6%20Get%20Shape%20Area%20and%20Length.jsx?dl=0
    It's based on Bryan's Buchanan and Hiroyuki's Sato scripts, but works on compounds.
    Feel free to modify it as you like.

    Feature is still required right form the box, in Document Info palette!

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    This can be scripted though and this is what I use, I'd like to have it natively; in document chosen units (squared), correctly for compound paths also.

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    Project Turntable (https://www.adobe.com/max/2024/sessions/project-turntable-gs3-9.html) is an experiment and not an actual user-ready feature accessible in Illustrator.
    'Sneaks' demonstrations shown at Adobe MAX are never actual promises — these are WIP slices of the research endeavors Adobe pursues. Some demos become real features, like ProjectVectorEdge — now Mockup in Illustrator... but some lead to something else entirely, or become obsolete, or still under development. It’s hard to make these real, stable, simple enough to learn and powerful enough to serve professionals... So, don’t expect them ever to become real things...
    ...but thanks for making a feature request — this can help the team to evaluate the need for the tool. I hope myself this one is still in works and won’t be abandoned. Fingers crossed.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I see now, thanks.
    It’s not a bug with 3D you found, really, but a bug with Strokes and the way they are shown and later treated by 3D.
    Take a look at the video attached.

    When a live stroke gets processed by the 3D effect, it gets outlined. We can see what the effect sees by applying Outline Stroke to the thick green stroke. Once we do it, we are able to see how incredibly messy it really is — and this it exactly what gets inflated.
    If you change the Corner Join type from Miter to Round — no problems occur.

    See, you apply a rather large stroke to a rather thin object... the stroke has two edges, and while one gets offset fine, the inner one is condensed and twisted by the Bezier math.
    I personally would have used a different approach to avoid this altogether — see the .ai file also and the image.
    Instead of strokes I’d use fills and apply Offset Path to each one. Plus I’d remove black fills from the original art inside of the group (but it makes no difference here, since the 3D produces a raster image in the end, but will guarantee cleaner results for vector artwork).

    Anyway, this is an interesting finding! Illustrator seems to hide the tangled result, exposed by 3D and Outline Stroke, but perhaps it should not. Thanks for sharing this!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I can’t really understand what’s missing based on the screenshot, sorry!
    Can you provide a test file with the object included, to test the problem?

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    Yeah... Spellcheck now is a total mess. I quit using it quite early, and now, when I recheck this — it fells even more broken. Take a look at the GIF attached — does it behave the same for you?

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    Neil, can you please share a test file with this text in it?

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    Please accept my sincere apology for the inconvenience. Please get in touch with us at any of the other support channels – https://helpx.adobe.com/support.html . Since this is not a generic issue that we can reproduce at our end, we will need someone to look into your machine to figure out what is going on here.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Can you reproduce this still with newer version of Ai?
    When I test it now, new blob brush strokes don’t get welded into the one from the hidden group.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    A new report got made, about older artwork appearing in an exported asset:
    Export Assets (Elements) as SVG results in additional content in exported file
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/49515458

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Wow. Can confirm. Thanks for the file!

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    Looks consistent at least... Worth inspecting the file. Can you share it, please?

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    Can you provide the file itself to test it?
    If it does not get attached here, please send it over at sharewithai@adobe.com

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I have exactly the same behaviour.
    Loosing line weight for dynamic symbols is something I encountered before. I’m glad to see someone walked the whole path to pinpoint exact problems.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Tracy, this is super strange. Please tell more. Did you originally create this artwork from the scratch in Ai or was it imported form another file?
    Do you recall the exact steps that lead to this state? Can you reproduce this behavior with a new shape? Can you share the file?

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