Remove canvas size limit
Can we please have the possibility to set bigger canvas size to incorporate large sized artwork.
(Please note: This item is NOT for more number of artboards per document)
We have posted a new build called 24.1 under the downloads section of our pre release program (https://www.adobeprerelease.com/beta/85A6F544-2705-49BD-8314-DD549C6A1713#). Please give it a try.
We would like you to carry out the tasks while designing for large artworks and to check if the export options work as per your need.
For export workflows, please let us know if the pdf options works for all your needs.
I got it working.
Major problem I have is that if you copy an asset from an ai file with the original max canvas area and paste it into the new, larger canvas area. It treats it as though it's being pasted into the same size canvas that it came from.
So copy a 3,000 x 3,000 mm asset and paste it into the larger canvas, it ends up being 30,000 x 30,000 mm.
So my guess is the canvas are hasn't changed at all. Which explains the reduced zoom limit.
illustrator is simply amending the scale it displays to you.
I was able to use up to 10x normal sizes.. i had one artboard that was 2000 inche wide and 300 tall. which is awesome!!
How do you do this?
I've tried in both 24.1 and 24.3
The size limit is still 227in x 227in
I have been testing out the 24.1 Build 1
in regards to the Large Canvas Functionality
When I start a new document and assign artboards as 250" x 250" and ask for 10 artboards
it creates artboards that are 227.54" x 227.54" instead
This is the only issue i have experienced so far
Looking forward to using this in the upcoming public release!
Why isnt the larger canvas showing up with 24.1 Build 3?
Qwasar, they are working on it. There is a beta version of 2020 you can download and try out.
So pleased to finally see movements to improve the total canvas and individual dartboard size limitations.
will be testing shortly
Qwasar Trinity commented
Sometimes I really need more space than 227 inches, but I can`t. WHY?? Is it too difficult to make the limit say about 700-800 inches? Why I can do it easily in Corel Draw for example? But that software havent some of important possibilities of the Adobe illustrator.
Please expand the limit more than 227 inches!
I work for a printing company and all I need is to export banners. My workflow is seriously hindered by not being able to have my workspace the correct size and then having to export at a low res. Please get to work on this as opposed to creating new features.
Definitely needs to be removed so larger banners can be printed directly from Illustrator. I'm going to hold on on the 24.1 version as there are always some issues with each new release. I think I can live with this for a little while and see if the 24.1 is more stable before I cause myself more grey hair.
Robbie Bouchoms commented
Is it possible to make a artboard larger then 577.9558 cm? I need a make a file that is 1100 cm long (433,07"). Is that possible in a way or is there a solution that I can make it in scale 1:10 and save it with at original size?
@Davey Morgan. We recently did a banner 90" x 57". The type was vector-ized, and a JPG image was 56" x 75", 62.6 MB, 72 ppi. It looked good, but the viewing distance was typically about 20' away. If closer (as in an office), we probably would have increased the rez.
Davey Morgan commented
I need a size of 457.50" x 118" for a mural in an office. I need to export it as a JPG.
My Beta lost the ability to create artboards beyond the typical 227. If I type in larger dimensions I get the error message "Artboard can not be created beyond the canvas bounds." and if I drag the size larger I get a different error message, "Artboard size can not be bigger than canvas size."
Version listed in Finder as 24.1.0 and on the splash screen as 24.1 6@177427
ABOLISH THE CANVAS LIMIT commented
I did a test with the preview, saving a really large AI file and opening it in the current version of Illustrator just to see what would happen. It basically saves the file at 10%, so when you open it in any old version that how it shows up.
Could you add some kind of functionality in large canvas mode where it saves large files with some kind of indicator that shows up in older versions to let people know the file is scaled down? Maybe just a "Scale: 1:10" textbox at the bottom just off the artboard, something like that.
I can see a future where co-workers or clients open design files and don't know they're scaled-down, leading to a bunch of confusion or possible production errors
As a sign shop, everything we produce is PDF unless we are printing & cutting a job in which case it's EPS. We only use raster for sending proofs – OR …
Another feature that is SOOO frustrating is transparency behavior. We often have to flatten transparency to make cut lines work for our plotter. But doing so makes the file uneditable so we have to use workarounds.
Andrew Hainen commented
I want to use large raster imagery in Illustrator, but the performance chugs so hard with ANY raster graphics that I just don't and use some other program instead.
Glad to hear this is under review! I *would* use raster formats, if such a thing was available. For large format photographic work, I would export tiffs. Because this feature doesn't exist, I often export as .eps, but exporting as .tif would allow for more straightforward post-export file checking.
To answer your questions:
1. my workflow in this scenario is to lay out artboards, to scale, of the architectural features to which I'll be applying graphics. Imagine, for example, three drywall panels with mullions between each, sized slightly differently because of variations in installation. I then scale the artboards up by half an inch on all sides for bleed, place my graphic such that it overlays all artboards, then export and check "use artboards." Typically there's not much that happens after that – I check dimensions and resolution and send to print.
2. The maximum size should be infinity. That's the whole point of this thread. I regularly work on floor layouts for buildings that are many hundreds of feet in each dimension. But conceptually, with vector graphics, we should be able to draw a shape 2 inches wide or 2 miles wide with no discernible difference. That's why we use vector graphics to begin with!
3. Large scale photo/sign printing typically uses 100dpi, though 300 is ideal if you have the source resolution to accommodate that. Smaller scale photo prints often go up to 600 or 1200.
I mainly use Illustrator for large-scale banners, rarely do I use JPEG or other raster files for large scale. Thanks for your work on this!
If you build larger artboards will Acrobat be able to use them upon export to PDF? Currently anything over 200 inches gets cut off. If you don't fix that then adding this functionality is pointless.
In Addition to this, can you allow bleed settings to go over one inch? Once inch restriction has always been a head scratcher.