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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Not good. For some reason the canvas doesn’t get updated in the Preview mode it seems.
    I have several questions!
    1. Does it work in CPU Preview mode?
    2. Would you tell this happens with clip groups only?
    3. Can you reproduce it from scratch in a new file?
    4. Can you share this file, or the copy of it with enough stuff removed to still get it reproducible?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Karen, that is exactly why there is no eyedropper icon anymore — because that was not the eyedropper :)

    The manual (https://helpx.adobe.com/ru/illustrator/how-to/recolor-artwork.html) states:
    'Experiment fearlessly — you can always get back to where you started by clicking the eyedropper icon.'

    So it’s been Reset all the time, but with the confusing icon.
    Changes in help files were not updated yet. Thanks for bringing this up.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I see what’s going on here.
    I tested the ES one with a document with a single artboard (it still is affected).
    I commented out the line 27 (app.executeMenuCommand("pasteFront");), to handle pasting myself — when Paste in Front was used, I got copies at both artboards.
    And then it clicked me... I picked Artboard tool and I see both artboards selected. Even though the second artboard is now active, the script never told Ai to deselect the first one — and Ai now allows Paste operations at all selected artboards, following this request: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/32146360
    But AFAIK there is no method in scripting to select or deselect artboards, it was never a thing we needed to care about...
    So this IS a problem!

    I’ll try to find out what is the state of things.
    Thanks for the report and the patience.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Yes, sure, please.
    UserVoice won’t allow them to get attached as .js or .jsx due to the security reasons, but try renaming these into .txt or something else.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Nope, can’t make this happen with 29.6.1.
    I start with two artboards in a new document, add some shapes to each one.
    I select objects within the Artboard 1 (both manually, with a marquee, or Select > All on Active Artboard command), and Copy them.
    I pick Artboard tool and create a new artboard, with the same size as the Artboard 1. It gets the name 'Artboard 3' — because I already have 2 of them.
    I make sure it’s active and Paste in Front — it works and the copied objects land in the same relative position, above all other objects in the current Layer 1.

    How does it look for you?
    Can you please record a video with the Artboards and Layers Panel visible?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    When I need to add colors used on canvas as global swatches, I select the artwork, press New Swatch Group button at the bottom of the Swatches panel, and tick 'Convert Process to Global' option.
    The name is confusing a bit, since it can be read as if the process colors were opposed to global ones... while these are not spot colors.
    The method works, and the only downside is that it would add duplicates for already existed global colors — and these are immune to be found automatically with what Ai offers form the box.

    The question though 'who needs non-global colors at all' is an interesting one :)
    Again, I’m personally strictly against killing non-global as a thing. I’m pro to having an option to have global swatches as a default choice... but not enabled by default.

    To answer — I don’t like having all the used colors in my panel. I want to keep only those colors there I care about and need to control.
    I often use random colors on canvas I don’t care about. If I later choose to care about one, it becomes tricky, because Select Same commands are useless for both Fill and Stroke and can’t handle complex appearances.
    The Recolor dialog doesn’t allow to convert a found color into a global swatch (there is a request about it — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/40961173), it can’t actually change global colors (http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/43795632), and Find/Replace Color (InD style) doesn’t exist (http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/46591144). So many problems...
    So I use different ways to solve it when it comes, including Magic Wand and scripts (specifically this one — https://github.com/creold/illustrator-scripts/blob/master/md/Select.md#selectbyswatches)

    Hmm, it’s still not an answer, right? :)
    I don’t have another though!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I still don’t get how do you create swatches.
    If you drag (you say you drag) colored objects into Swatches, a pattern swatch is created... not swatches.

    And no, making global swatches by default is not what is to be a universally desired method :) I agree there should be an option to toggle this, but please don’t think that everyone wants to create global swatches by default. I personally prefer globals, that’s true :)

    The idea about a 'global switch for globals' is a good idea! Perhaps a script can be made to do that until the team makes one...

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    If you press Ctrl+Alt+Shift new while clicking the New Swatch button in the Swatches panel, Ai will create the swatch as a global swatch, with no dialogue asked. Also, if you just click the New button, the 'global' option is set by default — if you set it before, it’s sticky.
    Ctrl+Alt will create a spot with no dialogue, and Alt does the same for a regular swatch.
    A hotkey, however, if you assign one, calls a dialogue, there is no way to silently create a global swatch with one hotkey only, you have to hit Enter immediately after.

    How do you create a swatch?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Lennert, I’m a bit confused.
    Expand Appearance would have worked only if you applied Round Corners as a live effect, via Effect > Stylize > Round Corners (or through the 'fx' button in Appearance).
    But the image shows you apply rounded corners as a parametric transformation to the live shape, which is your star — either from the Transform panel, Control or Properties — all three provide these controls.

    But your guess is correct nonetheless.
    In 2024 Ai converted the star into a full-fledged Live Shape you can customize after the creation — and this is why Ai tries to keep the radii you provided, even with the object gets sheared.
    To force it stop doing this (since you want these to be sheared), you need to tell Ai you want this star to be treated as a path.
    There are two fast ways to do it:
    1. Object > Shape > Expand Shape would force Ai to drop the additional info it keep about the star, making it a mere path
    2. Pathfinder > Unite would do the same, outlining the the only object you have selected with the path, ripping the live state off
    After this you should be able to shear it as before Live Shape Star happened (it was requested here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/32360224).

    The same behavior happens with live Polygon — but not rectangles! these do get immediately expanded when sheared, just like ellipses.
    In fact, sheared Stars and Polygons are weird — we can change the radii, but not the side count, it immediately rebuild the shape without the shear angle applied! This should be its own bug report.
    So I can’t treat my own answer as a full solution :)
    However, I hope this helps.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Ben, there is one (almost), even though it might be even more confusing to teach.
    It’s the Object > Flatten Transparency dialog.
    Drag the slider to Vector 100, to avoid rasterization as much as possible (make sense for raster-based effects).
    Check Convert All Text to Outlines (if you wish to).
    Check Convert All Strokes Outlines (this should work as Expand).
    Your patterns won’t be flattened — this would require Expand > Fill, and then using Pathfinder Crop (for each object) and Merge (if you want to fuse objects of single color)...

    But.
    When I teach, I tell people about contacting the printing shop in the very first place, asking them for a specific preset they use, and following the guidelines provided when exporting a PDF :)
    There’s usually no need to MANUALLY do these things with Outline, Expand, Expand Appearance(unless you are know what you are doing) — using a PDF preset handles it.
    Outlining fonts... this is controversial. Adobe sees outlining as a VERY obsolete practice... I remember this discussion specifically — https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/subset-fonts/m-p/9361431 — but Dov Isaacs was saying the same things all over the Web (along with 'Ai is not a general PDF editor'). It’s been a long time since then. Today, if a printing shop needs outlines (killing hinting and making the process slower), they can most surely do it themselves, better than any student (unless the staff is unqualified).

    If you still need a silver bullet... I’d advise using actions. There are custom tailored scripts I remember of. This would certainly require understanding how Outline, Expand-s, and Expand Appearance work.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I see some logic behind both variants. Someone could 'sculpt' the text with invisible paths... at the same time, no-fill-no-stroke works just as fine :)
    So I think I’m upvoting this.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Picassa, do you mean Ai on iPad (since you said 'on tablet') or the desktop app?
    If you try to use Save As instead of Save, and pick a different folder and/or name — does it help?
    If not — does it help to copy and paste the artwork in a new document and then save? (you can try to tick 'Paste Remembers Layers' option in the Layers panel’s flyout menu to keep the structure, if it’s spanned more than on one top layer).
    Please comment back.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Does it work in any other app? With no app at all (with desktop visible)? Does it work when Ai window is visible but not focused?
    When you say nothing happens — do you mean nothing gets pasted? In Ai or in any other place? Please tell more.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Thank you!
    Indeed, I can reproduce this issue, using 29.5.1 (no problems noticed) and the latest Beta 29.8 (two GIFs with two different results).

    Steps are:
    1. Enable both Use Preview Bounds and Scale Strokes & Effects options, either in Preferences dialog or Properties panel (with nothing selected).
    2. Create a duplicate of the object
    3. Using Bounding Box, scale the object down with Shift held
    4. Scale it up, ideally to match the original size

    Results.
    29.5.1 makes almost the same appearance. Relative values are consistent, the artwork looks like a copy of the original.
    29.8... both Offset Path effects (white and black) assigned to a group of two text objects within the parent group get scaled wrong — they become either too big or too small, compared to the other appearance!

    I assume the Beta works the same way with it as the GA build 29.6 (and 29.7 is on the way to become GA) — I will test it later.
    I noticed the Beta sometimes was able to scale the artwork correctly... and the more other apps I run in the background, the more the chance of the miscalculation... but perhaps it’s a false observation. 29.5.1 though never did it wrong in ~7 attempts I checked it with.

    Disabling Use Preview Bounds eliminates the behavior, and the scaling becomes consistent.

    Please comment if I got this correctly!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Again, hard to tell without looking at the specific appearance stack you used and the options enabled in Preferences.
    To be fair, I still struggle to fully understand problem you are mentioning... I’m surely noticing the changes with the appearance when you scale the object down... I believe these should stay consistent, with Scale Strokes & Effects enabled, but I can’t reproduce it.
    Please share this file here (without the font used, I don’t think it matters) — I’ll try to compare how 29.5.1 and 29.6.1 behave with it.
    Thank you for the report and the patience.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Not sure yet, I don’t think I can follow the problem...
    Kindly provide a short video or a GIF to show how it behaves at your side, to try to reproduce it at the team’s side.

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    Beta 29.7.0.60 introduces Search field in Preferences.

    Now we can jump to the found option quickly by typing a name or a part of it.

    Please try to update and test if it suits you (be careful though, this build also introduces many WIP change to the snapping system!) — and comment back if you have important notes.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    While the Search field is now focused by default (requested here: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/50114175 ), this is reported to be not a desired behavior for those who liked the Keyboard Increment field being focused: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/939477/suggestions/50255313

    If you have any comments to add, please do, it means a lot to the team.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    There are several related requests:
    1. Add Search in Preferences and make them user friendly: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/42476344
    2. Command Palette / Panel / Bar: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/36568675
    Kyle, would you mind me merging your request with the #1?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Raju, please share a test file for the team to review.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Indeed! Hovering over the clipped content treats it as a target, not its clipping container.
    It’s ignored even if I hover over the path specifically (even if I assign a stroke to the clipping mask).
    Thanks for the report!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Declan, please tell more: describe in details, record a video if necessary...
    Reverts how? To the last saved state, while you work? Or the previously saved documents revert to older states when opened? Do you use cloud docs or local ones?
    'Expanding shapes and sizes' — what do you mean exactly? Expanding a stroke? A blend? Or just resizing them with the bounding box (the frame with markers on sides and corners)?
    Please help to investigate this.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I can’t say it behaves the same way for me... Bob, would you mind to record a short video to show how it misbehaves at your side, please?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Tommy, are you still seeing these problems with fonts missing in the latest Ai builds?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Somehow you’ve got your bounding box disabled.
    You can enable it back with Cmd/Ctrl+Shift+B hotkey or via the View > Show Bounding Box.
    This mode can quite useful when one intentionally toggles it, but can indeed be frustrating.
    There are many reports like this, but it’s not clear yet if it gets disabled on its own or is it just a hotkey getting slipped.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Isabeau, can you please record a small video of you trying to reproduce the behavior?
    I have my guesses why it happens, just want to see exactly how it looks.

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