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    Lance commented  · 

    Eugene, Ton -

    I still can't replicate this, even with a fresh document. Doesn't affect my installation at all whether the spot color is custom, or pantone. I did briefly see the object flicker back to visible but it didn't stay visible. Looked like a slight lag in the rendering.

    Am I missing something?

    *** edit, leaving above for posterity ***

    I incorrectly assumed "non printing" meant "hide the layer" or "layer visibility turned off" rather than set the layer's properties/options to be a non-printing layer.

    It didn't initially cross my mind to try that because that's an option that I knew of but have never used for any reason.

    Easily reproduced using that option. Agree that it's very strange and probably unintended behavior.

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    Lance commented  · 

    I am unable to reproduce this in my Illustrator installation.

  5. 191 votes

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    Lance commented  · 

    This *looks* like an RGB -> CMYK conversion, but the document's tab claims the document itself *is* RGB mode.

    Voting for what appears to be a legitimate bug.

  8. 2 votes

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  9. 5 votes

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    Lance commented  · 

    I agree that the behavior here looks odd, but only when the black object uses a lowered opacity instead of a tint. I'm not sure what the utility of overprint is in this instance though, or why it would be used in addition to a blending mode.

    If you don't use the opacity and instead use tint, or just stay out of overprint preview mode then there's no issue.

  10. 2 votes

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    Lance commented  · 

    Harry,

    So you get a washed out RGB image (JPG or PNG) when opened in Photoshop as RGB or placed into an RGB mode illustrator document?

    Photoshop: I am not able to reproduce the issue in photoshop, can you provide more details?

    Illustrator: When placing an RGB image into an RGB illustrator document, I cannot reproduce the original washed-out image issue. Can you provide more details?

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    Lance commented  · 

    Glad you got it sorted. If you happen to be creating art for eventual printing (digital or otherwise), consider:

    1. Creating illustrator art and linked/embedded images in the same color space. it'll save you headaches like this in the future.

    2. Synchronizing your color settings with something fairly standard (US web coated SWOP or a GRACoL2006 are pretty common) and embedding all color profiles when saving your linked images and parent documents. It'll save you and the prepress people at the print shop headaches due to mis-matched or missing color profile info.

    I would like to note that the way you did it was technically alright, if you export/save PDF's for the print shop with a good PDF standard, or at least embed all color profiles w/o doing any color conversion. A modern RIP will handle CMYK vector data and RGB raster images just fine, but it will cause the images to look a little different in illustrator than in Photoshop/etc.

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    Lance commented  · 

    Does this happen with all images or just certain types of images? Assuming not since you mention changing the image type doesn't affect it.(jpg vs png, etc)
    Is the image in question in the same colors pace as the illustrator document? (CMYK vs RGB, etc)
    Are your color management settings synchronized via Bridge? (illustrator using one CMYK profile while image may be a different one, etc)

    Just covering the basics. I know it may sound like "have you turned it off and back on again?" nonsense but I always check the simple things first.

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    Lance commented  · 

    This works as expected in my installation of illustrator 2020 and 2021; either when drawing or after a path has been drawn. holding alt (windows) and clicking on a bezier handle 'breaks' the smooth point allowing manipulation of each handle separately.

    Maybe you have found a bug?

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