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    Lance commented  · 

    For anyone who comes here and is not familiar with the concept:

    When you save/create an AI file with Illustrator and have "PDF Compatible" setting ON, you're saving an AI file that contains a PDF as embedded data. When you place this file into inDesign, you're seeing the PDF data *not* the illustrator data.

    Similarly, when you save/create a PDF with Illustrator and have "illustrator edting" setting ON, you're saving a PDF file that contains the original illustrator file as "private data" within the PDF. When you place this file into inDesign, you're seeing the PDF data *not* the illustrator data.

    What's being requested is the ability to select a PDF joboptions (or PDF options preset) for the embedded PDF in the illustrator file so that you get exactly what you want in InDesign or similar.

    The only real downside to all of this is massively increased file sizes. Better bet would be to just export or save a PDF from illustrator as a finished artwork and place that into InDesign.

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    Normally, designing it at 10% of actual size and sending *that* file to print should be fine. A modern RIP should be able to scale to final production size without issue. But, if there is a raster effect, or raster image somewhere in the file that would become larger than 32,000 pixels in one dimension I could see it being a problem.

    The latest release of illustrator allows you to select a very large document size, but the resulting PDF will still only be a maximum of 200x200 inches. What they've done to allow the large illustrator document is to give the exported PDF a scaling factor (part of the PDF file specification) that tells the RIP how large the final printed document should actually be.

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    Lance commented  · 

    For those of you commenting below:

    Z-order / stacking order layers CANNOT be saved from authoring software into a PDF. All you can do is save PDF "layers", which are not z-order/stacking order layers but are instead known as "optional content groups", OCG's.

    A single path object can be in multiple OCG's, while another may only be in one (and that one may be one that the first object was also located in as well) The OCG's visibility can be switched on and off with software capable of seeing them, such as the paid version of Acrobat, and various professional preflighting programs.

    Illustrator does not see OCG's. In reality, illustrator should never be used to open and edit a PDF, though I do understand sometimes there is no other choice.

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    There are a couple of considerations to be made here:

    1. When you save/close a PDF (with Ai editing capabilities), open it back, make some edits and press Cmd+S (Save), original PDF settings are preserved. I am assuming there are no expectations of changing this behavior.

    2. Same document, when Saved As (copy), the PDF options dialog picks up the settings embedded in the PDF as the starting point. Users can then change it. By showing user’s last used setting (as requested in this report), it would not be possible to populate PDF‘s embedded setting in the dialog.

    Please share if this is an acceptable change.

    Thanks,
    Illustrator Team

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    Lance commented  · 

    It seems by Neeraj's reply that they expect us to save/open/edit/save in PDF instead of using illustrator's own native file format.

    PDF is not and never was intended to be an editable file format. It is an end-use format. Saving your illustrator data as "private data" within the PDF is, quite frankly, idiotic.

    Running an "illustrator default / illustrator editing capabilities ON" PDF through preflight (PDFtoolbox or the like) and changing anything about the file completely destroys the link between the preflighted PDF data and the private data (opening the PDF in illustrator afterwards will *NOT* show you the changes the preflight made to the file)

    Do yourselves a favor and just turn it off. I would say "and leave it off" but since it defaults to being ON and we're unable to select a default... well, that's what this feature request is about.

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    Lance commented  · 

    This is a good idea, seems like the export for screens ought to be able to export any file format illustrator is natively capable of 'saving'.

    That said, I don't use eps at all anymore since we switched to PDF workflow at my company a couple years ago. Anybody who thinks eps is "essentially the same as" PDF is in for a massive shock when you start working in prepress doing color management and matching for demanding customers, or just preflight in general.

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    Lance commented  · 

    @ Alex, I have noticed the same thing in the last two Illustrator updates. I have actions setup to save PDF's for a particular workflow and they *used* to save with their selected joboptions correctly, but now they're doing what export for screens does (a bug) that just uses the most recently used 'save as' PDF settings, regardless of anything else.

    I have to be careful to manually save a pdf with the settings I want and then run my actions.

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    Lance commented  · 

    I noticed some time ago that export for screens settings for PDF are not actually what the function uses when exporting PDFs of all artboards. Instead it uses whatever the last-used PDF export or 'save-as > pdf' joboptions settings were.

    For instance, I can select a custom joboptions in export for screens, but if I most recently used save-as and selected PDF-X/4 preset, then export for screens will use PDF-X/4 instead.

    Not sure whether that's an intended behavior, but the way the dialog it set up to allow selecting a specific joboptions setting I don't believe it is intentional.

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    1 comment  ·  Illustrator Feature Requests » Print  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Lance commented  · 

    You might want to take a look at File > Export > Export for screens

    It does what you're asking for here.
    Beware though, it will always use the most recently used PDF save/export settings, regardless what you set it to in Export for screens. So, if you need a particular set of PDF options, make sure to save a single test-document with those before using Export for screens.

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    Lance commented  · 

    All this does is add a scale factor to any exported PDF if the user selects version 1.6 or higher. The actual PDF page size is still limited to 200x200 inches.*

    It is not made obvious anywhere within Illustrator's new document dialogs that a user can make an artboard larger than 200x200 inches should they wish to do so.

    *All of this because distiller is still a thing, and is stuck with the 200x200 inch limitation for PostScript thanks to outdated limitations of the windows printer driver.

    You'd think this wouldn't be an issue to begin with since we're constantly bombarded with "metric is so much better, it's just moving the decimal place, so easy...!" .....yet people can't seem to figure out how to self-scale their art by dividing by 10. (just move the decimal, it's so easy!)

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    1 comment  ·  Illustrator Bugs » Drawing Tools  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Lance commented  · 

    I have attempted to reproduce this behavior and cannot get my current install to do it.

    The Unite and Merge commands in the pathfinder pallet both behave the same with filled path objects, but any stroke is lost with Merge.

    Changing the color of one of the path objects results in the same thing as Trim, though.

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    86 comments  ·  Illustrator Bugs » Drawing Tools  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Lance commented  · 

    Anjali,

    I am "glad to update" that this issue Is *NOT FIXED* or was broken again in 24.2.

    Perhaps your engineering team would like to take another look at this one, yea?

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    Lance commented  · 

    @ Edward: I've been experimenting some more, and find that it *does* actually work, but only if i start with the pen tool, and only if it's a vertical line.

    I can then rotate that line to any orientation and still get the center-extend cursor, even if i rotate it to exactly horizontal, the cursor will still activate.

    It *does not activate at all* on a line segment shape or a *horizontal* line drawn with the pen tool, when the line is originally drawn in the horizontal orientation.

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    Lance commented  · 

    Is anyone able confirm whether their installation is 'correct' and what their actual version number is? 23.1 or 23.1.1 ?

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    Edward, I can confirm that there is still a bug present. When I draw a line segment with the line segment tool, I immediately get a single handle at either end, not a bounding box.

    I can make the bounding box appear by deselecting, re-selecting with the direct selection too (default shortcut A) and then switching to the regular selection tool (default shortcut V).

    This causes the bounding box to appear, with three handles at the end, regardless of zoom level, but the middle handle does nothing. There is no cursor prompt to extend the line segment per Avinash's screenshot. The only cursor I get at the ends of the line are the rotation cursor.

    If i expand the line segment shape to a path, the bounding box appears immediately with the normal selection tool but the center handle is nowhere to be seen, nor do i get the cursor to extend the line, only rotate and diagonal resize cursors.

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    Lance commented  · 

    Release 23.1 either does not actually have this fix, or 23.1 is not an identical release for all users. Confirmed version 23.1 after updating this morning, confirmed this no-center-handle bug still exists for line segments at all zoom levels, and for other objects when zoomed out.

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    78 comments  ·  Illustrator Bugs » GPU Rendering Issues  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We have the fix available in the latest release. Please update Illustrator using Adobe Creative Cloud application to the latest build for version Illustrator CC 23.0.1
    Please refer to our knowledge base FAQhttps://illustrator.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1844590 if you face difficulty in update.
    Or get in touch with us at any of the other support channels – https://helpx.adobe.com/support.html

    Warm Regards,
    Ashutosh Chaturvedi | Sr. Quality Engineering Manager – Illustrator
    Adobe. Make It an Experience.

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    Lance commented  · 

    Still broken in latest release, 24.2.
    1. Set "Display print size at 100% zoom" to be ON
    2. Create 5x5 inch document
    3. ctrl + 1 to zoom to print size
    4. measure artboard with an actual ruler held to the screen - 5x5 artboard is displayed as 5.75 x 5.75 inches.

    Edit: the other setting, "Display at print size" to be OFF does seem to work as intended, for viewing pixel based art at 1-to-1 when zooming to 100% (ctrrl+1).

    Why can't both settings work correctly, why does it have to be one or the other? Or is Adobe assuming that the pixel density of all monitors is universal? Surely they can't be that dumb.

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    Lance commented  · 

    I'm glad the web designers got their fix. Now could you make the "Display print size at 100% zoom" part work properly?

    An inch should display as an inch, not as 1.125 inches.

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    1 comment  ·  Illustrator Bugs » Other...  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Lance commented  · 

    What sort of quality are you hoping to achieve? This is about the best I can get using the photo you uploaded

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    1 comment  ·  Illustrator Bugs » User Interface  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Lance commented  · 

    Do you happen to have any plugins installed, or any user input device drivers, or font management applications?

    I have both a Logitech Options software for my mouse and FontBase running and occasionally get one of these oddball pallets show up at startup that don't have any content in them.

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    2 comments  ·  Illustrator Bugs » Effects  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Lance commented  · 

    Can confirm this happens under Windows 10 also. I don't know that I ever used a photoshop raster effect on anything with a spot color before, though, so I don't have any previous work to compare my test file to.

    Art saved to PDF, output preview in Acrobat does not list any spot color channels (art in illustrator is single vector rectangle with a spot color fill and stroke, then Gaussian blur applied)

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    80 comments  ·  Illustrator Bugs » User Interface  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hi Everyone,

    We have fixed this bug in our latest release – v 24.2.1 which is available worldwide now. Thanks for your patience on this.

    Please note that after upgrading you might still see that Align To sets itself to Align to Key Object. If you see this, please manually set the Align To to the required setting, and this reported bug will not happen again. You’ll need to this one time only.

    The reason Align To might get set to Key Object after update is because Ai remembers your last Align To on subsequent launches as well. So, if your last Align To was Key Object before quitting/upgrading, after first multi-selection, it will set itself to Key Object. After you manually change it one-time, it will work fine.

    You can update to the latest release using Creative Cloud desktop App: https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/help/creative-cloud-updates.html

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    Lance commented  · 

    Verify that you do not have one of the objects selected as a key object. If that's the case, all the objects will center on the key object when using 'distribute'. Your screenshot makes it look like one of them is selected as a key object (the thicker selection highlight)

    As an aside, this latest update on my machine has introduced an occasional bug that causes a key object to be automatically selected when selecting multiple objects. It is very annoying.

    EDIT: They're aware of the issue and working on it.

    https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-bugs/suggestions/40682392-distribute-objects-in-align-palette-aren-t-working#comments/

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