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  1. 3 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Can confirm. Thanks for the report!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    No worries. It’s better to have it solved like this rather then have a bug like this!

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    Testing.
    29.2 Beta:
    Bounding Box ignores any bounds, but the objects’.
    Trim uses artboard bounds, no bleed.
    Art behaves like Bounding Box intersected with Trim.
    Media uses Bleed bounds, doesn’t ignore empty areas — same as Crop.

    InDesign 2025: same
    CS2: same

    It makes he behavior the same as before, consistent with other apps, and covers all the reasonable variants.
    Do you think it covers this up, or do you observe something else? Should I close the report?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I see. This seems like a common confusion with Crop.
    You should pick the Art or the Trim option here.

    I believe it never changed in 29.1... when I compare it with much older Ai releases and InDesign — they all behave the same.
    Sorry for the false confirmation! Why do you think it’s changed?

    All these options are based on how Acrobat treats them.
    Crop defines the boundary for the contents of a page when it’s displayed or printed — and this includes bleeds.
    Art defines the meaningful content of the page, including white space (usually the same as the dimensions of the page).
    Trim defines the finished dimensions of the page after trimming.
    Bleed defines the path for paper trimming and folding.
    Media defines the physical paper size of the original, including page marks.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Andrii, at the same time... can you please demonstrate how it looks for you? What do you expect and what you actually get?

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    Confirm. Even in the Place PDF object the dotted framed drawn when picking Crop is misplaced!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    @kata1963, do you think your report should be merged with the one you shared below?

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    The uploaded GIF got resampled for some reason and is very small... but the gist of it is clear enough.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Another way to swap object is a free Exchange Tool plugin by Totallypic: https://totallypic.notion.site/Ai-Beta-2a718bc127444fe5bd580c0cb21623de#ef795090c9da46f7b351a53cc823cc71
    Works up to version 27/2023

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    And while the team still thinks if the idea worth implementing, Sergey Osokin finished his free SwapObjects script: https://github.com/creold/illustrator-scripts/blob/master/md/Item.md#swapobjects
    Has useful options, quite handy, I use it all the time.

    The other viable option — paid ArtSwitcher plugin panel by Astute Graphics. Support more objects than two in a selection, has fitting options, etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FmCyJ2szk

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Allen, there is a script to help you with swapping fills and strokes
    https://github.com/creold/illustrator-scripts/blob/master/md/Color.md#cyclecolors
    Also check out his other color-related scripts at that page.

    He also has a script to Swap Objects, but I believe it’s not exactly completed, so it’s not published yet.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Jazel, do you by any chance have Magnet app installed?
    If yes — can you please try to exit it and check if it fixes the behavior?

  9. 7 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    There are two similar, but slightly different entries on the topic:
    1. Illustrator file closes without warning/saving if accidentally re-opened while canceling errors / relink prompts — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/38381689
    2. Do not allow save if multiple versions of same file is open in same computer — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/44660700

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Brittnie, does it still happen for you? I try and the file stays, doesn’t get replaced with an saved state.
    Please comment back.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Lars, do you still have this problem happening?
    When I check it, Ai just focuses the opened file, but does not read it anew from the drive, replacing the unsaved one.
    Do you refer to a local file, not the one across a local network, or a cloud file?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Well, I suppose it was not an error message, but a warning you are going to loose the data...
    Hope it will never happen to you again, but next time please try to capture it and share more details. Fingers crossed!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Can’t confirm. If I open the same document form the explorer, while it is already opened and changed in Illustrator, it just gets activated for me there, no data gets lost :)
    Can you please provide more info?
    Does it always happen for you? Where do you store these files? Which version are you using? What is your OS specifically?
    Does it happen in the Beta version, or in the released one only? Anything else that can help to reproduce it by the devs?

  10. 5 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    There are two similar, but slightly different entries on the topic:
    1. Do not allow save if multiple versions of same file is open in same computer — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/44660700
    2. Open file that is already open deletes unsaved changes without prompt — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/33872917

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    Wow! I confirm this, indeed it does close the file! How did I miss it?

  11. 4 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    There are two similar, but slightly different entries on the topic:
    1. Open file that is already open deletes unsaved changes without prompt — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/33872917
    2. Illustrator file closes without warning/saving if accidentally re-opened while canceling errors / relink prompts — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/38381689

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    ...and you are 'quick these days to click ok on any dialog box', including this warning message :)
    The idea is fine though, I remember having duplicates opened too

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Stefan, does it still happen? Do you refer to the Home screen and the thumbnails for the recent files there?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Not sure how the system works on Macs, but in the screenshot I can clearly see 'Folder shared with File Sharing'.
    What is the folder? What files do get end up there?

    And in general — does this happen still?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Spencer, do you still have this problem?
    Does it mean that you have your Glyphs panel sized normal, but when it pops, it’s always resized to the full extent?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Recent Files panel... I don’t think it exists anymore.
    Not sure one can call it now. Can you?

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    This happens for me as well from time to time with many documents open — the more I have, the longer the time this 'mixed-up- state stays active. Sometimes it’s a second, sometimes much longer.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Sadly I don’t have any new information on this, Maria, sorry.
    If I get any, I will add a comment.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Confirm in the latest Beta.
    Yeah, Greek capitalization is a complex topic.
    Merging this to an existing report.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Indeed, Μαΐου keeps only one dieresis if the language is set to Greek.
    Picking English would transfer both accents.
    I test this in the latest Beta.

    The situation with Russian is different, since these accents are not actually accents, but parts of actual letters, different Unicode symbols altogether, while in Μαΐου these are secretly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combining_Diacritical_Marks

    If a font or an app don’t / can’t handle these properly, the construct breaks, like the image shows.
    But И and Й, as well as Е and Ё are not forms of each other, but monolithic characters.
    Anyway, this is outside of the scope of the problem.

    Back to the Greek!
    Maria, can you please share a simple series of steps I and others can try to reproduce this properly?
    Does TT button behave differently from using Type > Change Case Uppercase?
    How different builds treat it differently?
    Which do you prefer and why?
    Share a file the team can repeat these steps with, please.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Reading about monotonic and polytonic system was fun though!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Maria, I took some time to study the problem.
    I found this report here at UV: Accents disappear for capital Greek letters — http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/40178119

    So somebody wants the accents to stay for capitals.

    You, on the other hands, say Greek capital letters do not take the accents...
    Well, it seems like 'far less used' — https://icu.unicode.org/design/case/greek-upper (a ton of links)
    More informal discussions also exist: https://www.reddit.com/r/GREEK/comments/15nmsm5/as_implied_by_the_fact_that_when_writing_in/

    Something similar happens in Russian, with it’s 'Ё' and 'ё' — they often become just 'Е' and 'е', to save time or make letters more compact, since words using it rarely gets mixed with their homographs. However, the other pair of letters, 'Й' and 'й', never loose their breve. The 'Ё' facultative state causes many problems when happens (or not) in official documents, names especially.

    However, when I try to reproduce you problem, using 'σπανάκι ψιλοκομμένο σε μερίδες' line from the adjacent report, I don’t see any difference!
    No matter if I actually convert these into Capital Case using Type > Change Case > UPPERCASE, or press All Caps button in Character panel, no matter if it’s English or Greek in Character’s Language dropdown — the spinach line always gets displayed WITH diacritics for me, as ΣΠΑΝΆΚΙ ΨΙΛΟΚΟΜΜΈΝΟ ΣΕ ΜΕΡΊΔΕΣ

    I am redirecting this to the Type team.

    My private opinion is Ai does it correct. A proper capital form of a letter with diacritics should get one. It’d be a disaster for Russian to loose breve and two dots (they are considered to be neither umlaut or diaeresis).

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Please help me to understand this.
    You say 'we need to change the language to Greek for accent to disappear' — you mean 'change to English'? or does it automatically detects English in Character and you have to force change it to Greek for these to vanish?

  19. 4 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I see, thanks. Still curious about all other questions, but OK :)

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    Gonzalo, I don’t object, I’m just curious, to better study the topic.
    How many files do you have opened at once?
    How large is you screen? Can you share a screenshot?
    Do you have any plugins installed?

    Do you know about this request?
    Mouse scroll doesn't work in Window menu
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/49138061

  20. 2 votes

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    RY, interesting. What was the app and what do you have in mind? I must confess I know what SDF is, but never heard of ADF before.

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