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I would still consider committing heinous acts in exchange for this feature.
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Hi. I still could really really need this. Please?
I'm doing a comic right now that has sets of styles for two characters, plus an outfit variant for each of them, and a second outfit for one, plus an assortment of styles for the backgrounds, and my Styles palette is just stupidly gigantic. They make it super easy to draw a character quickly but scrolling through them takes an absurd amount of time and thought, I wanna be able to say "okay I am drawing Chloe in the dance costume so I need to open up the base folder and the dance outfit folder" and close everything else so I'm not trying to remember where everything is in this roughly sixty-inch-tall palette.
Just imagine that every blank style in my screenshot with a name like " CHARACTER NAME" is a folder, that has a disclosure triangle next to it so I can open it and close it. Being able to nest style folders would be super nice, I could just say "Okay time to draw Chloe" and have all her alternate outfits lurking under her base styles, then finish drawing her and hide them all away with one click. But if that's too complicated, just having folders at all would be a MAJOR boost.
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I draw comics, and use Graphic Styles to keep my characters consistent across panels and pages.
A simple character might involve a half dozen styles. A complicated character can involve a lot more - see the attached screenshot.
Add in a good chunk of Graphic Styles for recurring background elements and I'm constantly dealing with triple-digit number of entries in the Graphic Styles palette. Finding the set of styles I want to use becomes an increasingly tedious process as pages get more complicated.
I would like to be able to create folders of Graphic Styles, which I can open and close in a similar fashion to opening and closing layers.
Being able to nest them would be nice; in the attached screenshot I have styles for two variants of a character's vehicle, with their own subsets of styles for drawing them at different sizes. Being able to nest all of these into "KIRT MECH" would be great for when I'm working on a page involving three giant robots fighting.
I would also really really love it if these folders were preserved when pulling styles out of a style library, or when copying art to another file.
Basically I have been using a LOT OF Graphic Styles to make some pretty complicated artwork, and I am finding myself direly in need of a way to fold away the parts of the complexity I'm not thinking about at the moment.
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Astute just added a control for this in their DirectPrefs panel and it makes Isolation Mode actually usable for me. Turns out I like the outside art dimmed to about 80% opacity so there's *some* indication.
Supposedly there might even be hooks inside of Illustrator for setting an arbitrary *color* to the isolation mode and that would be kinda fabulous, maybe the drawing I'm working on today really works best with a blue tint to isolation mode, maybe tomorrow yellow's best...
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Yeah this would be nice. It's one of the reasons I avoid Isolation as much as possible.
I'm here because of discussion of someone wondering if it would be possible to make isolation be *completely* opaque and I feel like this is something I might want to be able to alter casually. Just stick a little eye with an opacity slider popup in the upper left corner that goes from 0-100%. Something like this deliberately crude mockup I just drew:
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god yes
With a search bar at the top so I can just type part of the name I halfway remember for a script, "stack" should bring up "distribute stacked objects.jsx".
Currently I'm using an Alfred workflow to let me do this by double-tapping control and typing some stuff but it can be a little glitchy, sometimes it returns nothing.
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You've probably figured this out in the four years since posting this but command-space has been a quick toggle for zoom since I started using Illustrator back in 2000. Probably longer. Shift-space is rotate canvas.
That said yeah this would probably be useful for a bunch of tools!
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The team says it’s fixed in Prerelease build 29.6.191.
The fix is now scheduled to be pushed into the upcoming general release.
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aww yeah, I'll be hitting that update when it happens then! I'm still hitting this one on a regular basis. Thanks for the heads up!
An error occurred while saving the comment Margaret Trauth
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29.3 still does not fix this.
I'm still on 27.8.1 at the moment because even though I know what causes this I still do not want to deal with being annoyed every time I try to use the pen tool to draw a path with an effect that triggers this. Turning "new art has basic appearance" back on before drawing a potentially offending path would *technically* work around this but, just, no, I've had "new art has basic appearance" off for something like twenty years at this point, please fix this bug.
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Oh hey a new version. Is this bug fixed in 29.2.1? No it is not. Back to 27.8.1 for me!
An error occurred while saving the comment Margaret Trauth
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Awrite, I just installed 2025 (29.1, an update from the 29.0.1 I originally reported this on) and noted the following:
* deleting this path on my original file did indeed fix this, both errors are gone
* drawing a new single-point path with this appearance instantly causes the [IABD] and appearance processing errors, whether I'm in outline or cpu preview
* this behavior exists in the gpu renderer tooaaaand
* your stripped-down file still generates both the [IABD] and appearance processing errors in 2025
That's one more drink I owe you if we ever end up in the same place at a convention, I guess :)
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Oh wow, thanks for doing the digging on isolating this one, Egor! I will try to make some time to reinstall 2025 and see if I'm still getting the [IABD] error. It definitely makes a *ton* of sense for it to be a weird edge case with effects this update touched.
(Here's a Reddit post from someone who's getting similar behavior except their first error is [!out] instead of [IABD], followed by the "error during processing appearance of an object": https://www.reddit.com/r/AdobeIllustrator/comments/1ha2ol9/anyone_ever_had_this_pop_up/)
....really I would kinda love it if there was a "show me the offending object" button on the "error processing appearance" requestor next to the "ok" button., I should make that feature request if it doesn't already exist.
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Yeah this would be nice.
I mostly work with lots of named graphic styles so a thing I do a lot is alt-click on a style, which adds all the appearance attributes to the bottom of the current stack, then spend a few minutes figuring out *which* attributes I actually want from the fifteen strokes/fills I just added, and deleting the rest. Being able to pick just one or two would be super great.
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I suspect this may be one of the preferences that's only saved on a clean exit - if you are the kind of person like me who always has Illu open unless it's just crashed or you're manually quitting it to update it or some plugins, then try setting this, then immediately quitting.
I just checked and mine was still saving data recovery into a much older folder too; I changed it to the latest version, then manually quit, and it's still claiming to save to the newest directory. Guess I better add another thing to the list of "stuff to do in a major version update" that I keep next to the program.
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Yes please.
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Pathfinder modes / effects / command to work with open paths...
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36 votesAn error occurred while saving the comment Margaret Trauth
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@Sergey yeah that's pretty much exactly what I want, except as a live effect so I can apply it to a bunch of paths automatically:
An error occurred while saving the comment Margaret Trauth
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Sometimes you just want to do a boolean operation that results in an open path, and you want to embed it in a complex appearance stack.
This could be an entirely new entry in Effect > Pathfinder, or it could be a switch added to existing pathfinder effects.
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Custom profiles for this. A list of every effect, whether built-in or plug-in, with a switch to disable it for this particular performance level. I use a lot of effects that can produce an *apocalyptic* number of paths and it would be great to be able to turn them off without actively going into a bunch of appearance stacks and toggling their visibility.
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really just 'esc' to exit it would be great, as would a UI at the top similar to isolation/pattern edit/symbol edit/etc, consistency is nice
I'm back here because I still really want this, a lot of my opacity masks are done with Astute's Opacity Brush which makes smooth organic opacity masks *super* easy but when I want a non-bitmapped opacity mask, or to draw more precise shapes, I'm using the traditional way to make and edit the mask and it is such a HASSLE.
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Oh and also it would be nice if entering/exiting an Opacity Mask could be recorded in actions.
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Yes please.
This should search all menu items and all tools, regardless of origin.
Native tool? It's in there.
Plugin tool? It's in there.
Native menu item? Plugin menu item? It's in there.
Stuff you've installed in the Scripts menu? It's in there.
My toolbar is overflowing. What was that plugin tool that does exactly what I need? I think its name had 'collide' in it? Oh hey yes I have a couple menu items with that word in it and a tool called 'colliderscribe' and it looks like I assigned a shortcut of shift-t to it for some reason and this is what its icon is in the toolbar and if I select it in the results list and hit return it's now the active tool.
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This one's still hilariously annoying and still there in 29.3.
The only reason I'm not regularly swearing at this is because I went into Keyboard Shortcuts and removed the shortcut for the Perspective tool so I would never invoke the **** thing again. I've been using this program as my main art tool for *twenty five years* and turning this stupid widget off was a giant pain ********** for multiple years until I finally nuked the shortcut.
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Weird, I just got email telling me this has a new status because it is supposedly something I supported, but it is not - I never even *use* the New Document window this is referring to, I'm still using the "legacy File New interface".
Something's broken in Uservoice I guess?
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What morally dubious act can I offer to an Adobe developer in exchange for doing this. Or perfectly moral exchange, is there a furry on the dev team who would like me to draw the heck out of their fursona if they get this one rolling?
Seriously I have about 600% more graphic styles in the average page of my comics than you have ever tested these things on, I need to be able to organize this palette with folders and subfolders SO badly.