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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Hmm. Can you please share this file (font excluded), please? I want to try one thing with the stack you are having.
    I don’t object the request, I'm just exploring the problem :)

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Illustrator does not have instances, but it has symbols and Global Edit.
    Not sure what you mean about saying "to use the same layer to blend, I need a duplicate in only white". Can you please share some screenshots, with Layers panel visible? I feel I miss something.

    I’d also argue about compound paths being destructive... Perhaps we mean different things, or have different views on what 'destructive' means.

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    At the moment Ai allow several methods to achieve something like this.

    1. Select an object, highlight a layer you want to clip (but only one), and from the Layers panel’s menu choose 'Make Clipping Mask' command (you would also have to have the layer highlighted, otherwise Ai won’t enable the command). This will clip the whole layer.

    Basically it’s the same thing as clipping a selection, but it just allows to add more art into the layer without isolating a clip group first. The order of the clipping object in Layers is not important.

    If you choose a group, then Ai will intersect all the paths in it to calculate the final clipping path.
    If you pick a compound path to clip, it would behave like a filled compound path, according to options chosen in Attributes panel (paths’ directions and fill rules used).
    With this method the appearance of the path means nothing, so the stroke won’t contribute. Ai uses geometry only to clip, not the rendered appearance (this includes strokes and effects), and it won’t change ever, I believe.

    2. Use opacity mask.
    Target the layer itself by clicking the circle marker next to its name in Layers, and click Make Mask button in Transparency panel.
    Enter the mask by clicking the thumbnail on the right, Now the art you draw will mask the whole layer, same as with the clipping mask in the method above — but this time the stroke and the effects matters. The image would have to stay black on white though (or vise verse, with Invert Mask option checked.

    In both cases you can use live text.

    Are you familiar with these? If yes — why not use them and what would you like to change and why?
    If no — well, same questions (after you try them).

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Hmm, interesting.
    Narrow, but quite professional.

    A bit relevant to this simple request:
    Offer to not show again the message about discarding CMYK profile
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/32262463

  3. 8 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    John, it’s a different problem, it is now known, it is reported, and I will merge this new report you made into it. Thanks for prompting!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Natalie, open your Creative Cloud Desktop app, go to Apps section, and find 'Beta Apps'. Locate Illustrator Beta there and install it.
    The app will install next to the existing build of Ai and won’t affect it.

    The only downside — on Windows it messes up with file associations, because OS can’t tell these apart. So if you don’t have any Ai launched, Windows will launch the latest installed when you open an .ai file form the Explorer. If you do have one of two launched, Windows will use it. And if the major build number match — Windows won’t let you to launch both at the same time.

    Here is the help article: https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/creative-cloud-beta.html

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    @Natalie, this make me sure it is exactly what I meant. Shift-clicking indeed used to display the name of the Pantone used, since that’s what Mixer UI used to show for a Spot Color. And it indeed got broken just recently when the team reworked these dropdown to also include new modes for it.

    The latest Beta tried some changes to ease the pain, but I personally don’t find these solid. However, they should work for your case, so please do try Beta if you can, see it yourself, and comment back if doesn’t do the trick.

    I’ve also merged your report into an existing one.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    You mean this behavior, recorded in the attached GIF, correct?
    When holding Shift always opens the 'Color' dropdown in the alternate mode, basically Color (sliders / mixer, with the name of the Pantone visible — if the color IS already Pantone), instead of default 'Swatches' view?

    And you don’t mean clicking it with Shift magically converts a color into a Pantone, as one can think?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Natalie, can you please elaborate? Where do you click specifically? In Control panel? In Swatches? In Properties? How did it work for you before?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Not happy with the fix...
    For me using Shift works once to toggle it into the mixer, but if I don’t use Shift anymore, it now sticks to sliders and does NOT open it as Swatches :(
    And please fix the 'shift' with lower-case 's' finally!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Here is a comparison, before and after.
    Sure, new dropdown offers more information and allows to toggle the modes with a click in a button, but using a modifier is faster and should just work.

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    I confirm that. The hover tooltip still says 'Hold shift key to bring up alternate color UI' — but it really doesn’t do it anymore (and 'shift' is in lower case, ugh).
    I bet this change was caused by the recent changes the team made to squeeze in the new generative controls.

    However, double-clicking a swatch in a dropdown in Control works for me and opens the Swatch Options dilaog.
    John, is this what you meant? Please clarify and maybe even demonstrate, if possible.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I see. This feels exactly like snapshots.
    Would you mind me merging this request into the one form the comment below?
    You can veto it, since yours specifically states it should be cloud-based, and I’m afraid Adobe won’t force local document changes into cloud, unless they are specifically cloud docs (and many users would abhor this, because some work has to stay local and private).

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    Haithem, have you checked the Version History panel (and I see you did, judging by the icon you used in your mockup)? It works only with cloud-based .aic files, but seems to do exactly what you need.
    What would you like to change in the way it works?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    A related request:
    A 'snapshot' feature, similar to After Effects
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/48564812

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Do you get this error at launch?
    Does it launch then or just stops?
    When did this start to happen? Were you able to successfully launch AI before?
    What about other earlier builds, what about Beta?
    What is your current OS build?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    A related request:
    Radial Repeat rotation angle value in Control and Properties panels
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/43866528

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  7. 33 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    A related request:
    Radial Repeat Shift angle constraint
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447/suggestions/42444832

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    We can control the number of instances, the exact radius, but the only way to define an angle is the round knob on canvas — which does not get dragged when you disable the bounding box, and which does not react when one holds Shift to constrain the angle.

    Eyeballing is not the only way people create illustrations, you know.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Harrington, there are some, available in Control and Properties panel, along with the Options dialog. Which options do you think are still missing?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Oh, Marc, don’t worry at all, you should never try to control the tone here (unless it goes personal, which should never happen in any other place as well).
    Illustrator is powerful but also is buggy as a swamp, and we all here jump from one dry spot to another, trying to avoid sinking.
    I am being mad sometimes, not just frustrated. After all, I read everything here and I’m a pretty decent empath (that’s why I do what I do).

    I rarely touch Libraries at all, just because I can’t stand their rigidity and ...extraterrestriality? They feel glued on with a snot, by a team who never saw how Swatches look.
    No wonder I just avoid dealing with it...

    There is a dedicated request to drop the limit of 5: http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/37043683
    I’ve just added you as a voter there, Marc.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    I see no problems with moving swatches into a library.
    What is your workflow to move these?

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    Oh, indeed! I can totally confirm this.
    Release Clipping Mask followed by Undo does not clip it back!
    Thanks, Kip!

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Katie, in case you have the file still — can you share this fragment of it, please?

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    It’s no about outlines per say, but about the difference between a hole cut in something versus something layered on top.
    It’s easier to test with a simple black background and two identical white circles (in the attached file): one is white on top, and another one is punched from the background.
    If you compare the rasterization, you will see quite different results, as in the screenshot attached.

    It’s been there since the very first version. Most probably happens because of the way rounding works. As I see it, with separates shapes Ai rasterizes each one and then combines the results, blending them into one raster image (it probably happens way more efficiently though), but with holes cut being it gets rounded not 'outwards', but 'inside'. I don’t have the actual confirmation on this but my own experience, but yes — it’s being troubling me since day one.

    It’s good to have a post on the topic finally.
    Let’s see how many more find this disturbing, but I bet it can’t be easily compensated.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Melissa, does it happen only with duplicating an artboard, or with the objects as well?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Keegan, can’t replicate this, on a Windows machine, using both the Beta and normal builds. Having the CTB opened with the Artboard Tool picked still allows me to create a new artboard hugging a clicked object...
    There should be a difference, let’s test it. Perhaps it’s something else?

  18. 3 votes

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    There are many things that seem very obvious to have, including this one, yes :)
    The problem is there are so much of us users, and obvious things just pile up. UserVoice helps a ton to flash these out, to raise awareness and evaluate demand. It takes time and willingness to upvote. Nice to see you here, Renan, please comment and upvote more. Bring friends :)

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    Yes, Renan. I thought UV has a request on this, but it seems nobody asked for this here.
    Meanwhile this is possible with Dashify live effect from Astute Graphics (see the screenshot).

    There is a related request, if you are interested:
    Allow the option to have dashed strokes be able to start with gaps
    http://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657/suggestions/48461876

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    It seems to be the same exact problem as described here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/illustrator-discussions/issue-with-finecut-9-quot-two-or-more-sets-of-register-marks-quot/m-p/14014946

    Specifically: "if the register marks and the cut lines are both the same spot color ... then Finecut will think there are multiple sets of register marks. Change the color of your cut lines and the problem should resolve."
    Please try to change the color of the circles and comment back if it resolves it.

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Glad it worked.

    I understand the frustration.
    But it’s fair nonetheless. While it seems like an extra step, it’s not. 'Expanding a shape' means only converting it into a path — with no modifications like removing handles. Basically Ai just drops the stored definition of it being live, rip offs the label.
    And handles are most probably required to avoid having the widgets drawn for each new point and keep them drawn only for rays.
    Ai has to keep them, because otherwise it won’t be able to convert the resulting path into the same live shape, if one chooses. If you try to convert a path with reduced handles (using the Simplify method) into a live shape, Ai will do it wrong, seeing twice as many sides and no corners at all...
    Not sure if this can be easily fixed.

    To the second part — when I try to call Object > Expand for a live shape (being it a star, or a rectangle, or an ellipse), the dialog appears for me... but the 'Object' option is disabled. I personally think that Ai should allow to this common expand dialog for expanding live shapes, but never cared enough to make it a request. But you say it just doesn’t pop at all?

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    AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) commented  · 

    Lourens, this is interesting.

    I was able to reproduce what you see, and this is what’s happening.
    When a star gets expanded, the inner points of it have handles, even though the segments are straight (take a look at the screenshot attached).
    Since Illustrator does not STORE the data on corners, but RECOGNZES them in any given path, this combination of handles FORCES it to see original corners you made when modifying a live star. So Ai converts the live star into a just path in a CONSISTENT manner (which is fair!)

    But now to make it show corners widgets for the actual corners, you can remove the handles (exactly what you did manually).
    There is a faster way to do it!
    Call Object > Path > Simplify, and click the 'cog' button, to open advanced settings.
    Enable 'Convert to Straight Lines' option and reduce the threshold to zero (just like the second screenshot shows).
    This will force Ai to remove all the handles without removing any points.
    Press OK and there you have it — all corner widgets are there for all the points.

    Does it work for you?

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