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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I originally posted this to the old bug report form, back around 2016. I thought this was funny and posted it to my blog, as well.

    Today I was reminded that this low-key annoyance is still happening, and that other people find it kind of annoying too. So I posted it here. Maybe this low-key annoyance can finally gather enough "yeah, me too"s to make it worth someone bothering to add a switch for this, seven years after this unwanted toad started hanging out in the bottom of our collective toolboxes.

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  2. 22 votes
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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    or maybe "reverse order" in the layers panel's menu should work on objects I've selected in the preview, instead of requiring me to open up the layer, find them in there, and select them again? ah, illustrator.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    Here's a horrible kludge that I currently do.

    1. Save.
    2. object>blend>make
    3. object>blend>reverse front to back
    4. object>blend>release

    Saving is not mandatory but strongly suggested, especially if you are reversing some paths with complex appearances - Blend might decide to make a ton more paths and bring Illustrator to its knees, and it's nice to be able to force quit Illustrator in that case and do it manually. This all fits into an action, and is definitely worth taking up of my precious f-key slots.

    I sure would love to just do object>arrange>reverse stacking order though. This request just got my vote. :)

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  4. 26 votes
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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I would swear shift-clicking does this with the pen but it does not. Huh. I wonder when that stopped working, or if I am hallucinating that it ever did.

    Workaround for pen: click elsewhere, hold down the button, use space to activate drag mode and position the point on top of the point you want to align with, but don't want to connect to.

    Personally I find the pencil tool's auto-close to be aggressively useless. It would be much more useful to me if it looked at the *angle* of the beginning and end of the path, and only connected them if they matched. With the current implementation it auto-closes a ton of stuff that I have no need for it to close. I skipped the version where pencil auto-close was introduced without yet having a "don't autoclose" switch, it completely ruined my pencil-focused workflow.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    Here is a one-click workaround:

    1. Make a document containing nothing but a path with your desired brush assigned to it. Save it.
    2. Open a new file.
    3. Start recording an action.
    4. file>open the document made in step 1, do *not* use file>open recent files as this will get recorded as a "place" action placing some unrelated file
    5. select all, copy, close, paste
    6. stop recording the action
    7. make a new document and run the action again to make sure it's working
    8. quit Illustrator to make it save your new action, unless you want to risk making it again after Illustrator crashes before the next time you manually quit

    You might also want to record "new layer" before opening the brush document in step 4, otherwise the action might abort when it tries to paste into a document with no unlocked layers.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I cannot upvote this enough, I have basically moved away from ever touching individual curve handles whenever possible because it is SO. *******. PAINFUL. now. I, too, have a workflow that is the antithesis of what works for smart guides.

    Basically now whenever I try to move a curve handle I misclick, swear, try to select the object again, misclick, swear, and hit my hotkey for Astute's InkScribe tool, which ACTUALLY GRABS THE ******* CURVE HANDLES instead of requiring me to click on the absolute center point of the curve handle with my drawing stylus, regardless of what selection tolerance and anchor point size are set to.

    (This is not a Windows-only bug either, I only use Macs and this has been driving me up the ******* wall for the past several years.)

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I think it *used* to actually save this. Maybe on a per-document basis. And you could fix this by editing your New Document Profiles to have your desired layer panel options.

    Then this stopped. Layer panel settings are still on a per-file basis but if that's being saved, it's ignored when you load in a file; the options are always reset to the way they are in the attached screenshot.

    This was long before the Uservoice site existed, bug reports and feature requests were just a form on Adobe's site, so there's no old bigs ******** about this change in here. It's been a low-level annoyance for years and I finally got reminded it exists and came here to grumble about it.

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  9. 13 votes
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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    Hmmm!

    I am trying to reproduce this and I can only reproduce this with variable-width strokes drawn with Astute's Dynamic Sketch tool, which can turn pressure data into width data. Guess it's their bug, I will pass it on to them!

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    This still does not work for paths that have an art brush.

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    I am happy to share that we have fixed this bug in our latest release – 27.3.1 which is available worldwide now.

    Going forward, our goal is to fix as many top User-Voice bugs as possible and as frequently as possible. Given the nature of the fixes, some of the bugs will take a longer time to fix, but we are on it.

    You can update to the latest release using Creative Cloud desktop App: https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/help/creative-cloud-updates.html

    Thank you for all the feedback. Keep it coming!

    Ankit Goyal

    Illustrator Team

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I just started getting this on 26.4.1.

    Blowing a half an hour digging on this traced it to something completely not involving any text at all. It is reliably showing up when I place a path drawn with a certain pattern brush into a *distortion mesh* and distort it. If I use a different pattern brush it doesn't appear. Very strange.

    No replication file to offer, unfortunately - I can't get the path displaying this weird behavior isolated into a single file, and now it's stopped happening.

    Man this is gonna be a **** of a bug to track down.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I just ran into this and want to expand on this:

    You can record an action of selecting the "Merge Swatches" item in the Swatches palette's menu, but running this action does absolutely nothing.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    Dang, I like this. This solves a pretty frequent help request that we currently have to teach beginners a *bunch* of stuff to do.

    Maybe this should be part of a Depth Arrangement Tool instead of another thing crammed in the Object menu?

    (Which begs the question of what else would such a tool do: access to basic send to front/back, as well as put all selected objects in front of the topmost/behind the rearmost selected objects (I do this a LOT via some scripts), and reverse the stacking order of selected objects is my suggestion for things that would all belong in a Depth Arragnement Tool.)

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    It is 2022 and I have finally found a workaround for this wherein I don't use Illustrator's scatter brushes at all; instead I use Astute's Dynamic Sketch plugin to draw paths with variable widths, and their Symbol Stipple plugin to turn those paths into a bunch of randomly-placed shapes. It is kind of awkward to set up but it does work and it sure would be nice if there was a simple "scatter magnitude" slider in the native scatter brush settings.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    Still here in 26.3.1. I use this a lot for Op Art trickery and it's pretty annoying to have it broken.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I updated, it's still there on 26.2.1.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    Hmm, 23.1.1 (2019) and 22.1.0 (2018) are doing the same thing. So if it's a reversion it's been around a while, I guess this is more of an enhancement request after all - feel free to move this to the appropriate place, o moderators.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    I have wanted this so long. You have my upvote.

    Egor does make the valid point that it could cause an infinite number of pattern steps if you made the width too thin, there should probably be a minimum pattern size failsafe lurking in the revised pattern brush renderer.

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    Also here is a negative spacing workaround for pattern brushes that I use regularly:

    1. draw the art to be the pattern brush
    2. draw a rectangle with no stroke or fill that is smaller than the art, place it behind the brush art
    3. make this art into a pattern brush or alt-drag it into the thumbnails of an existing pattern brush in the brush palette.

    You can also take an existing pattern brush, drag it onto the artboard, edit the invisible bounding boxes that come along with it, and alt-drag them back into the brush's thumbnails.

    Depending on the precise pattern you could also just make a scatter brush the default settings except for a spacing <100.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    OKAY so this seems to have ended up being a bug with Astute's WidthScribe plugin, they just released a beta update and this has stopped happening.

    Sorry to have blamed Adobe, this one showed up after I updated AI, and was happening on files that weren't even using any of WidthScribe's effects! :)

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    The mysterious change seems to be the addition of four paths, and a group containing one path, to the topmost layer, immediately upon opening the file. These paths do not seem to exist in any meaningful form - I can't see anything when I select them, even if I zoom out past the entire pasteboard; if I turn on "zoom to selection" and try zooming in, the preview doesn't move from wherever I happen to have it centered.

    This file contains nothing but these paths. If you delete them, save, and reload, they won't reappear.

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    Here's a file that I spent a little time deleting stuff out of until it stopped doing this. This is the last version that does it; if I unlock the single layer and save a new file, the new file will not be marked as changed when I load it back in until I actually change something. But this file? Instantly marked as edited the moment it's opened.

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    Margaret Trauth commented  · 

    Here's another one that's doing this for me. It's super simple, just a few layers with some stuff sketched with the Pencil tool, and some translucent shapes with Gaussian Blurs on them to rough in some lighting.

    Interestingly enough if I delete the layer with those blurred shapes and save this as a new file, it's still showing up as edited the moment I load it in.

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