Selection tolerance does not apply for selecting handles and is broken for points
Selection tolerance does not work for handles selection. You need to be very precise to select them. When smart guides are on, it works, but not when they are off.. For my type of work it's better to work without smart guides.
Alexandre Soubrier commented
This is totally insane to see that a CORE function of a vector program doesn't work as expected.
And next to that, you have deep development of totally useless functions like Intertwine (WTF ?!!?!).
Eric Cobain commented
105 votes now and absolutely nothing from adobe. This is not the only place this is being documented. Its also on the adobe forums. They just don't care and it really shows. They already have our money.
Margaret Trauth commented
I cannot upvote this enough, I have basically moved away from ever touching individual curve handles whenever possible because it is SO. *******. PAINFUL. now. I, too, have a workflow that is the antithesis of what works for smart guides.
Basically now whenever I try to move a curve handle I misclick, swear, try to select the object again, misclick, swear, and hit my hotkey for Astute's InkScribe tool, which ACTUALLY GRABS THE ******* CURVE HANDLES instead of requiring me to click on the absolute center point of the curve handle with my drawing stylus, regardless of what selection tolerance and anchor point size are set to.
(This is not a Windows-only bug either, I only use Macs and this has been driving me up the ******* wall for the past several years.)
Eric Cobain commented
This is just one of those examples of where Adobe just doesn't listen to it's users and instead decides to break what was not broken. In an 8 hour day, I can honestly say I lose a minimum of an hour in micro amounts of poor UI.
Dealing with layers is an even bigger issue. WTF would you have a lock and a visibility option for layers and groups if visibilty acts like lock? Why can't I drag something out of a layer thats hidden when it's not locked? Why do I need to unhide layers for them to get accept transforms given to the parent layer? Wouldn't that be what lock is for?
This causes another hour lost to combine for an average of 2 hours a day in nonsensical UI. Every action requires 5x more work than necessary. Other art programs do not have these issues.
I also find it very difficult to choose a handle. Long ago, the selection was easy.
Anchor points can be selected normally, but the behavior of handle selection is different.
Maximizing the visual size of handles in preferences does not make them easier to select.
Since it is a function related to basic operation, I would like you to improve it as soon as possible.
I like to work with smart guides turned off when I`m drawing new paths and shapes, because the smart guides always snap to places and don`t want. To refine the shape, I use the Direct Selection tool to select the anchors and move the handles as I like, but with smart guides turned off, is really hard to select them, you need to be very precise and click exactly in the few pixels that represent the handles ands anchors. And I don`t want to enable smart guides at this stage of my workflow, because, again, they make the handles and anchors snap to places I don`t want. For some reason, with smart guides turned on, is way more easy to select anchors and handles. I believe that turning smart guides off should only disable the snapping behavior, not the selection one. Switching smart guides on and off using shortcuts is not really a good solution, because it would only slow me down.
Karel Schoonejans commented
It's extremely frustrating and makes working with handles in Illustrator almost impossible. I tried both mouse and Wacom pen.
I took a screenshot. I've set the handles to the biggest size and even when I click inside of them, I get a selection marque in stead of moving the handle.
Zach Dominguez commented
One solution I found was to go to Preferences > User Interface > UI Scaling
I also went to Preferences > Selection & Anchor Display > Increased the Size of Anchor Points, Handle and Bounding Box DIsplay.
I switched from an HD monitor to a 4K monitor and everything was super hard to select, but this helped a ton. Not saying this will work for everyone, but worth a try!
Jason Burnett commented
I think this may have to do with screen magnification on my PC. I often can't grab a handlebar or a point on a path. Often, when trying to change the width of height of something, the cursor changes to indicate width or height, but the item rotates instead. The latest version eliminated all of these abilities without the transform tool active--which sucks. I think it is because I have a 38" curved monitor that I have to run at 175% to read the content on it. I don't think Illustrator has got that part figured out yet.
Agree this is a bug and that turning on Smart Guides is not a good solution. Instead try making sure “Highlight anchors on mouse over” in Preferences > Selection & Anchor Display is checked. When checked the issue seems to be diminish (on M1 Mac, Illustrator v26.2).
Therese Spina commented
The bezier handles are extremely difficult to work with unless the smart guides are on. Frustrating!!!
Ray Cabarga commented
This should be under "Bugs" and not under "Feature Requests". The feature is already there, it just doesn't work since CC was introduced.
Scott Deyett commented
I haven't had this issue until the recent update to the newest version. Completely aggravating having to stop/slow progress on a project to try and meticulously move the cursor over the point, hope it's the right place to grab, only to find out... nope. You just selected the entire form again. It is such a time and project momentum killer.
Alexandre Soubrier commented
This is unfortunately not a new issue and Adobe is not listening... The issue should have hundred votes to be listened. Ask your communities to vote for it
25.4.1, still an issue. Please fix this critical bug.
When you have an anchor point selected and you click on a bezier handle... have it move the handle instead of selecting the artwork underneath it. Make the clickable zone of the bezier handle something like 50px radius... because it seems even being 1px away doesn't select the handle, tolerance in the prefs does nothing and one must either be olympic level precise in wacom/mouse moving skills or zoom in to 6000% percent. See attached video.
Logic to code should be: User has anchor point selected > user clicks near to anchor point handle (distance a prefs setting?) > user can now move handle of bezier.
Current code logic = user clicks 1px next to a bezier handle of a selected anchor point = user must be wanting to change selection to artwork behind!!? Really Adobe, no...
Currently its unusable.
25.3.1, still an issue. Please fix this, how long can i take for the programmers?
It's a bug. And it's still there.
Vote for this thread:
The selection tolerance setting in the preferences is actually supposed to affect handles AND points. That's how it works in CS6 and older versions. So this is clearly a bug.
Please vote for this post in the bugs section instead: https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-desktop-bugs/suggestions/39393367-selection-tolerance-setting-on-bezier-handles-has