Margaret Trauth
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An error occurred while saving the comment Margaret Trauth
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I think it *used* to actually save this. Maybe on a per-document basis. And you could fix this by editing your New Document Profiles to have your desired layer panel options.
Then this stopped. Layer panel settings are still on a per-file basis but if that's being saved, it's ignored when you load in a file; the options are always reset to the way they are in the attached screenshot.
This was long before the Uservoice site existed, bug reports and feature requests were just a form on Adobe's site, so there's no old bigs ******** about this change in here. It's been a low-level annoyance for years and I finally got reminded it exists and came here to grumble about it.
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Hi,
Based on the information provided by Margaret in the last comment, the issue is not specific to Illustrator but related to Astute's Dynamic Sketch tool. Thus closing the issue for now.
Warm regards,
Aishwarya G Gadodia
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Hmmm!
I am trying to reproduce this and I can only reproduce this with variable-width strokes drawn with Astute's Dynamic Sketch tool, which can turn pressure data into width data. Guess it's their bug, I will pass it on to them!
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This still does not work for paths that have an art brush.
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I am happy to share that we have fixed this bug in our latest release – 27.3.1 which is available worldwide now.
Going forward, our goal is to fix as many top User-Voice bugs as possible and as frequently as possible. Given the nature of the fixes, some of the bugs will take a longer time to fix, but we are on it.
You can update to the latest release using Creative Cloud desktop App: https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/help/creative-cloud-updates.html
Thank you for all the feedback. Keep it coming!
Ankit Goyal
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I just started getting this on 26.4.1.
Blowing a half an hour digging on this traced it to something completely not involving any text at all. It is reliably showing up when I place a path drawn with a certain pattern brush into a *distortion mesh* and distort it. If I use a different pattern brush it doesn't appear. Very strange.
No replication file to offer, unfortunately - I can't get the path displaying this weird behavior isolated into a single file, and now it's stopped happening.
Man this is gonna be a **** of a bug to track down.
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I just ran into this and want to expand on this:
You can record an action of selecting the "Merge Swatches" item in the Swatches palette's menu, but running this action does absolutely nothing.
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Dang, I like this. This solves a pretty frequent help request that we currently have to teach beginners a *bunch* of stuff to do.
Maybe this should be part of a Depth Arrangement Tool instead of another thing crammed in the Object menu?
(Which begs the question of what else would such a tool do: access to basic send to front/back, as well as put all selected objects in front of the topmost/behind the rearmost selected objects (I do this a LOT via some scripts), and reverse the stacking order of selected objects is my suggestion for things that would all belong in a Depth Arragnement Tool.)
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It is 2022 and I have finally found a workaround for this wherein I don't use Illustrator's scatter brushes at all; instead I use Astute's Dynamic Sketch plugin to draw paths with variable widths, and their Symbol Stipple plugin to turn those paths into a bunch of randomly-placed shapes. It is kind of awkward to set up but it does work and it sure would be nice if there was a simple "scatter magnitude" slider in the native scatter brush settings.
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Still here in 26.3.1. I use this a lot for Op Art trickery and it's pretty annoying to have it broken.
An error occurred while saving the comment Margaret Trauth
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I updated, it's still there on 26.2.1.
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Hmm, 23.1.1 (2019) and 22.1.0 (2018) are doing the same thing. So if it's a reversion it's been around a while, I guess this is more of an enhancement request after all - feel free to move this to the appropriate place, o moderators.
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I have wanted this so long. You have my upvote.
Egor does make the valid point that it could cause an infinite number of pattern steps if you made the width too thin, there should probably be a minimum pattern size failsafe lurking in the revised pattern brush renderer.
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Also here is a negative spacing workaround for pattern brushes that I use regularly:
1. draw the art to be the pattern brush
2. draw a rectangle with no stroke or fill that is smaller than the art, place it behind the brush art
3. make this art into a pattern brush or alt-drag it into the thumbnails of an existing pattern brush in the brush palette.You can also take an existing pattern brush, drag it onto the artboard, edit the invisible bounding boxes that come along with it, and alt-drag them back into the brush's thumbnails.
Depending on the precise pattern you could also just make a scatter brush the default settings except for a spacing <100.
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OKAY so this seems to have ended up being a bug with Astute's WidthScribe plugin, they just released a beta update and this has stopped happening.
Sorry to have blamed Adobe, this one showed up after I updated AI, and was happening on files that weren't even using any of WidthScribe's effects! :)
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The mysterious change seems to be the addition of four paths, and a group containing one path, to the topmost layer, immediately upon opening the file. These paths do not seem to exist in any meaningful form - I can't see anything when I select them, even if I zoom out past the entire pasteboard; if I turn on "zoom to selection" and try zooming in, the preview doesn't move from wherever I happen to have it centered.
This file contains nothing but these paths. If you delete them, save, and reload, they won't reappear.
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Here's a file that I spent a little time deleting stuff out of until it stopped doing this. This is the last version that does it; if I unlock the single layer and save a new file, the new file will not be marked as changed when I load it back in until I actually change something. But this file? Instantly marked as edited the moment it's opened.
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Here's another one that's doing this for me. It's super simple, just a few layers with some stuff sketched with the Pencil tool, and some translucent shapes with Gaussian Blurs on them to rough in some lighting.
Interestingly enough if I delete the layer with those blurred shapes and save this as a new file, it's still showing up as edited the moment I load it in.
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I think the "Better Keyboard Shortcut Customization" idea merged with this one might have been more about menu shortcuts than toolbar shortcuts? Not sure, it's vanished now.
Anyway. I've got a lot of shortcuts. I think I've got about fifteen key combinations that aren't assigned to something - plain key for a tool, shifted key for another tool, command-key, command-shift-key, command-alt-key, and command-alt-shift-key for various menu items and the tiny intersection between "stuff in the various panels I'd like to have a hotkey for" and "stuff that actually shows up in the Keyboard Shortcut dialog".
As a Mac user I'd love to be able to add the control key to the mix, doubling the number of shortcuts I can assign. I never use Windows so I don't care what you figure out to give Windows users another bit for key shortcuts - maybe the Windows key?
Also there are some things wired deeply into Illustrator that should be changeable. Most notably the shortcut of holding down the ` key while using most transformation tools to only transform pattern swatches; it's unchangeable, and doesn't *exist* on all international keyboards.
Really I would like to see every single button and menu item in Illustrator's myriad palettes show up in the Keyboard Shortcuts pane. I can get around some things not showing up in there *if* they'll show up in actions, but some won't - I'm so **** tired of having to go to the Appearance palette's menu to do "Redefine Graphic Style" in my graphic-style-oriented workflow, for instance.
I've seen screenshots of other Adobe tools that have much nicer keyboard shortcut editors, that do things like show you which keys are still unassigned. Look at them. Steal liberally from them. Expose a ton more things to control by the keyboard. And give us a couple more bits worth of meta keys.
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I'm glad to know I'm not the only one Egor, I'm working on a piece that's giving the view rotation a serious workout and this is really driving me nuts.
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Dragging out a marquee with the Zoom tool does this, too. So does the Group Selection tool, and so does Astute's Super Marquee. I really hope this is because they are all relying on the same "Draw Selection Marquee" routine. :)
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This is still happening. It's been happening for several years before I filed this bug. It didn't used to happen. I can't remember which release introduced this behavior. It was whatever release "helpfully" started making the portions of clipped paths that are outside the clipping mask be inactive. I hated it then. I still hate it. It constantly trips me up when I am working with shapes drawn over clipping masks. Which I do pretty often.
Seriously I really hate this behavior. If you are an engineer at Adobe looking for a small thing to try and play with, and spend a day or two fiddling with this, even if you determine that this is a huger problem than it appears, please contact me and I will send you money to buy a beer, or do a small piece of art for you, or something, because you will be poking at something that has been a low-level constant annoyance in my workflow for several *years*.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Margaret Trauth
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Hmm, good point, Egor - here's a couple of screengrabs. They're both absolutely identical but for the rendering method. I've included the result of overlaying them in "difference" mode as well, mostly because I wanted to see just how far apart they were.
This is on 25.4.1, on a 2017 Macbook Pro. (2.5 GHz Intel Core i7, Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640 1536 MB according to About This Mac. Still on Mojave because I'm not saying goodbye to Neko, the Desktop Cat until I absolutely have to upgrade because I bought a new computer.)
Also thanks! :)
(and yeah, I probably should make a separate bug for area type autosize turning itself off, I just noticed it happening while isolating the test case for this one.)
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I cannot upvote this enough, I have basically moved away from ever touching individual curve handles whenever possible because it is SO. *******. PAINFUL. now. I, too, have a workflow that is the antithesis of what works for smart guides.
Basically now whenever I try to move a curve handle I misclick, swear, try to select the object again, misclick, swear, and hit my hotkey for Astute's InkScribe tool, which ACTUALLY GRABS THE ******* CURVE HANDLES instead of requiring me to click on the absolute center point of the curve handle with my drawing stylus, regardless of what selection tolerance and anchor point size are set to.
(This is not a Windows-only bug either, I only use Macs and this has been driving me up the ******* wall for the past several years.)