Selection tolerance for selecting handles
Selection tolerance does not work for handles selection. You need to be very precise to select them. When smart guides are on, it works, but not when they are off.. For my type of work it's better to work without smart guides.
This is unfortunately not a new issue and Adobe is not listening... The issue should have hundred votes to be listened. Ask your communities to vote for it
25.4.1, still an issue. Please fix this critical bug.
When you have an anchor point selected and you click on a bezier handle... have it move the handle instead of selecting the artwork underneath it. Make the clickable zone of the bezier handle something like 50px radius... because it seems even being 1px away doesn't select the handle, tolerance in the prefs does nothing and one must either be olympic level precise in wacom/mouse moving skills or zoom in to 6000% percent. See attached video.
Logic to code should be: User has anchor point selected > user clicks near to anchor point handle (distance a prefs setting?) > user can now move handle of bezier.
Current code logic = user clicks 1px next to a bezier handle of a selected anchor point = user must be wanting to change selection to artwork behind!!? Really Adobe, no...
Currently its unusable.
25.3.1, still an issue. Please fix this, how long can i take for the programmers?
The selection tolerance setting in the preferences is actually supposed to affect handles AND points. That's how it works in CS6 and older versions. So this is clearly a bug.
Please vote for this post in the bugs section instead: https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-desktop-bugs/suggestions/39393367-selection-tolerance-setting-on-bezier-handles-has
The selection tolerance setting for handles is clearly broken. It's stuck at 1 pixel, no matter what you set it to in the preferences.
I compared with CS6 where it works fine.
Please vote for this post in the bugs section:
Yeah, the tolerance setting doesn't work anymore. It seems to stay at 1 pixel (for the handles, it works for the anchor points) no matter what you set the tolerance to in the preferences.
Tried different tolerance settings in CS6 and it works fine. PLEASE fix this... it's extremely frustrating having to grab handles with perfect precision.
Update: I polled my Instagram followers about this and 64% reported having this problem (200 respondents).
This has been around for so long now that I just don't think it's going to get fixed. They did a prerelease version where the tolerance was adjustable up to 24 instead of 8, but it still only affected the points, not the handles, and considering we've still got a max of 8 in the retail versions then it must have been scrapped. Either way, it's just a frustrating mess on Windows and borderline unusable on a high PPI screen (because I think whatever the tolerance is on those bezier points, it doesn't multiply for app scaling - eg running the program at 2K instead of 4K).
And its problems like this that make Adobe's decision to kill previous versions of programs apart from the last 2 releases so problematic. I never had any of these problems in old versions. I've been using Illustrator for around 20 years and I'm at a point where I just dread using it nowadays.
This is still broken in the latest version in Feb 2021 - particularly on PC. Unusable without Smart Guides on but still not the greatest with Smart Guides on either. The issue exists on the Mac version with Smart Guides off as well. I've given up using Illustrator on PC.
My workaround on Mac has been to turn Smart Guides on and turn all the features of Smart Guides off except for object highlighting.
Update: this bug now also occurs on Mac in Illustrator 2020. Maddening.
This is an incredibly annoying issue, I've been waiting for some sort of solution for a long time no, but just changing the size of the anchor point size without actually increasing the clickable area is ridiculous (snap also, only works for points, not handles, why?).
Btw, MOHO animation software has solved this issue really well, it's an absolute joy to manipulate the anchor points and their tangent handles, check it out Adobe team!
Absolutely correct. Really precise work in Illustrator is nearly impossible unless you take the (incredibly time-consuming) step of zooming in to maximum magnification. Carpal tunnel zooming ad nauseam.
Windows 10 - 1909
When trying to select bezier handles the cursor needs to be extremely accurate to successfully select a bezier handle. A pixel off and it creates a marquee instead meaning I frequently miss the handle. Changing the Selection Tolerance in preferences has no effect on the bezier handles, only the anchor points.
This is not the case on Mac OS where the bezier handles are also affected by the Selection Tolerance preference (I can select them within a few pixels outside of the physical handle)
I thought this may have something to do with high density displays and the inbuilt Windows scaling but I have tried playing with those settings to no avail and also tested on a regular 1920x1080 display with the problem the same. It occurs regardless as to whether I am using a Wacom pen or mouse.
The problem also occurs with GPU Performance on or off.
Judging by a forum search, this problem has already existed for quite some time but I wanted to add my experience to the chorus. As it stands now, it is unusable for me in a fast paced work environment so I've had to revert to using my Mac machine for any Illustrator work (which isn't ideal).
Note: working with Smart Guides on is not a viable workaround.
Mr. Ponce commented
It is indeed broken; when text is inside a small circle the text tool cursor wants to select the circle and not the text although you are clearly right over the text. I have to zoom in considerably to select the text.
Same for text on a dimension line on measurements. To select the text with the text tool I have to zoom in otherwise it will select the dimension line.
Jayse Hansen commented
Highly agreed - working in AI is a HUGE pain now - always rotating when you just want to scale. Or scaling a corner even though you just want to stretch from the center. It's especially noticeable on wacom tablets, however every other app gets it right. (InDesign, Xd, Mirra, Photoshop etc.) What's up AI team? It's a major pain to have to zoom in every time you want to do a transform.
Wes Rand commented
@Alexandre Soubrier Agreed. Selecting points is easier now but selecting bezier handles is still a study in frustration.
@Rebecca Migdal : ok I see. But these functionalities exist since several versions.
The point of this thread is about selecting bezier handles without smart guides. Because some times, you don't want smart guides ON, as explained in the comments below
Rebecca Migdal commented
Alexandre Soubrier, here is what I see:
1. The pen tool is simplified-- it had already absorbed the functionality of the add and delete anchor point tools, and now these are eliminated. Can still switch between pen and anchor point tool by holding the option key.
2. Labels indicate what you are hovering over when using the pen tools and the selection tools, and these now include handle, as well as anchor and path
• The function can be turned on and off under Preferences: Smart Guides: tick box "Anchor/Path Labels"
• Adjust the size of handles under Preferences: Selection and Anchor Display
@Rebecca Migdal : I have this version and don't see the improvements. What kind of improvements do you see ?