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1. Expanding simple paths autogenerates dozens of unnecessary Bezier points

   Drawing 2 overlapping shapes or paths (or shapes expanded from paths) could once be reliably split/trimmed/etc. cleanly using Pathfinder tools.

   Currently, doing so autogenerates dozens of unnecessary Bezier points. This can be cleaned up using the Smooth tool, but becomes a tedious process, especially given that the same cleaned shape will behave the same way if Pathfinder is used again.

   This is a critical part of my workflow that's become substantially disrupted by whatever change was made under the hood in the past 6 years.

   My hope is that with the change to other drawing tools, this is a preference I'm simply not seeing that can be changed.

   AI 24.2.3 on Mac OS 10.14.6 and 24.2.1 on 10.15.6

   Drawing 2 overlapping shapes or paths (or shapes expanded from paths) could once be reliably split/trimmed/etc. cleanly using Pathfinder tools.

   Currently, doing so autogenerates dozens of unnecessary Bezier points. This can be cleaned up using the Smooth tool, but becomes a tedious process, especially given that the same cleaned shape will behave the same way if Pathfinder is used again.

   This is a critical part of my workflow that's become substantially disrupted by whatever change was made under the hood in the past 6 years.

   My hope is that with the change to other drawing tools, this is a preference… more

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2. Pathfinder and redraw bugs

   These screenshots and QT movies and AI files correspond to bug reports I made earlier this month.

   https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3Aabb5c132-3029-4f7a-bf02-e76f73bd22cf

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3. Merging paths changes shape appearance

   So basically I have this shape that I am trying to subtract the white type out of so it is one shape (like a stamp) where the white type is open, not white fill.

   When I go to delete the white type from the path, or minus front, or divide, or using the shaper tool (it doesnt matter-same thing happens across the board)- the appearance of the type changes, becoming thinner- but the vector doesn't actually change... it's a visual thing, but its noticeably different.

   Not sure if that makes sense or if this has happened to anyone else....

   Does anyone know how to fix this or why it's happening?

   So basically I have this shape that I am trying to subtract the white type out of so it is one shape (like a stamp) where the white type is open, not white fill.

   When I go to delete the white type from the path, or minus front, or divide, or using the shaper tool (it doesnt matter-same thing happens across the board)- the appearance of the type changes, becoming thinner- but the vector doesn't actually change... it's a visual thing, but its noticeably different.

   Not sure if that makes sense or if this has happened to anyone else....

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4. Pathfinder Merge actually Dividing, leaving cut out objects behind

   This might be easier to read on the forums where the images are inline with the explanation, but I copy pasted everything here anyway. Here's the thread.

   https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2601397

   This has been a thorn in my side for so long I can no longer ignore it. I don't know when it happened but at some point Illustrator's Merge tool started dividing objects instead of merging them, and leaves behind cut up versions of objects that are behind the visible objects.

   MacBook Pro 15 2017
   macOS Mojave Version 10.14.2
   2.9 GHz Intel Core i7
   16GB memory
   using Illustrator CC 2019 version 23.0.2

   I'm pretty sure this still happens on my windows 10 computer at home as well.

   Interestingly, if I have only a few objects involved, it merges just fine, but when I'm working on logos that are even minutely complex it pitches a fit. I've expanded appearance, expanded text, expanded strokes, ungrouped objects, and put them all on the same layer and it still doesn't work. Thing is, the objects I'm merging aren't even terribly complex, and as a test I made 15 rectangles of various colors (some the same and some different) and had them overlapping in various ways.

   Screen Shot 2019-03-05 at 4.06.07 PM.png
   Here you see the objects selected so you can see the outlines and how the layers are organized.
   Screen Shot 2019-03-05 at 4.06.16 PM.pngScreen Shot 2019-03-05 at 4.09.32 PM.png
   Here's what happens when I try to merge (you can barely see the gaps that show the color behind themScreen Shot 2019-03-05 at 4.06.34 PM.png
   I moved part of the blue area at the top to show the navy object underneath has not been deleted.
   Screen Shot 2019-03-05 at 4.14.20 PM.png
   So with the objects now properly ruined, here's what the layers look like.
   Screen Shot 2019-03-05 at 4.23.59 PM.png
   In the old days Merge would merge all like colors that are visible and delete anything behind them. Now it divides and leave colors behind so there's a ton of extra, useless, objects left behind that get in the way when I'm forced to unite the mess together manually afterwards.

   But even with simple blocks of color, not that many points, no groups, and a mere 15 objects merge won't work.

   If anyone has any solutions to this you'd earn my undying gratitude.

   Thanks.

   This might be easier to read on the forums where the images are inline with the explanation, but I copy pasted everything here anyway. Here's the thread.

   https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2601397

   This has been a thorn in my side for so long I can no longer ignore it. I don't know when it happened but at some point Illustrator's Merge tool started dividing objects instead of merging them, and leaves behind cut up versions of objects that are behind the visible objects.

   MacBook Pro 15 2017
   macOS Mojave Version 10.14.2
   2.9 GHz Intel Core i7
   16GB memory
   using Illustrator CC 2019 version 23.0.2

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   Resolved (Comments Open)  ·  AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) responded

   The objects had the Overprint attribute checked in Attributes panel. With this option on Illustrator leaves fragments unmerged to match the assumed intention behind having Overprint one. This is a normal expected behaviour, but not a transparent one.

   If you have this problem, don’t hesitate to leave the comment to force the team to rethink the UX behind this.

5. Illustrator CC 2019 v23.0 Divide tool not working

   I'm running on a iMac Pro (2017) Mojave OS 10.14 and using Illustrator CC 2019 v23.0. I've tried using the divide tool via the Pathfinder panel as well as the new Properties Panel and neither will work. Typically it would divide the two patterns top and bottom and now it just leaves the patterns as is without dividing. I also have used the guides to divide a pattern and that is not working either.

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6. Unite on Pathfinder leaves mess of little vectors

   This is something that happens to me frequently when creating underbases for screen printing. I'll make a copy of my top colors and unite them to create my base, and there's a mess of little vectors left behind that have to be cleaned up before I can trap the base. There's no gaps in the art so these vectors should not be there and this is a big lag on my production time.

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   Resolved (Comments Open)  ·  AdminEgor Chistyakov (Admin, Adobe Illustrator) responded

   As per the comment, you can adjust the Pathfinder precision in Pathfinder Options dialog, accessible from the Pathfinder’s panel flyout menu. The higher the value, the less accurate the result is going to be. Lesser values gives more precision, but it can lead to many 'residuals'. The default value is 0.028 pt, but you might try something like 0.01 pt and see if it works better.

7. Pathfinder Trim with Gradients does Divide instead

   Version: Any

   Steps taken: Make a file with a gradient fill on top of an object with a solid fill. Apply Pathfinder Trim.

   Expected result: Object underneath gradient object is removed while gradient object stays as one solid object.

   Actual result: Gradient object is cut and solid object remains underneath.

   Video: https://youtu.be/6_kRG7MHCt4

   Further comments: When using pathfinder in Illustrator to trim objects that contain a gradient the objects underneath do not get removed as they should and instead appear to be divided. This seems to be an issue with how Illustrator makes gradient as if overprint fill was applied to the object. The workaround is to put a solid color underneath or apply the gradient as a fill in the appearance panel instead of using the tool bar, but that is not an intuitive way to design.

   Version: Any

   Steps taken: Make a file with a gradient fill on top of an object with a solid fill. Apply Pathfinder Trim.

   Expected result: Object underneath gradient object is removed while gradient object stays as one solid object.

   Actual result: Gradient object is cut and solid object remains underneath.

   Video: https://youtu.be/6_kRG7MHCt4

   Further comments: When using pathfinder in Illustrator to trim objects that contain a gradient the objects underneath do not get removed as they should and instead appear to be divided. This seems to be an issue with how Illustrator makes gradient as if overprint fill was applied to… more

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8. Pathfinder Minus Front releases compound shapes from their compoundedness except when the compound is a negative space.

   Pathfinder Minus Front releases compound shapes from their compoundedness except when the compound is a negative space.

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