John, it’s a different problem, it is now known, it is reported, and I will merge this new report you made into it. Thanks for prompting!

Do I need to make this a new bug or do you all understand that the control bar fill and stroke color options still do not work correctly like they used to. Maybe you all do not understand what is going on. On the control bar on the left is the fill swatch and on the right is the stroke swatch. When I try to change the color from the control bar it is not changing per the left fill swatch or the right stroke swatch but instead it is changing per what is active in the vertical toolbar. If the fill color is active in the vertical toolbar and I select the stroke color from the control bar it changes the fill color instead of the stroke color. If the stroke color is active in the toolbar and I select the fill color from the control bar it changes the stroke color instead of the fill color. Does this help you all understand that it does not work and you still have not fixed it.

I just did a new illustrator update on Friday November 22 and it did not fix this bug.

Still broken 👍

While ya'll are at it can you make the functions of the control bar swatch options and the toolbar swatch options work the same when you click on either one so if I am close to the bottom of the screen I can select the swatches from the toolbar but if I am at the top of the screen I can select the swatches from the control bar and get the same function options.

Clicking the swatch drop down opens the different swatch color options.
Shift + clicking the swatch drop down opens the Color Mixer options.
Option + clicking the swatch drop down opens the gradient options.
Command + clicking the swatch drop down opens the pattern options.
Thank you

I installed the latest beta and after installing illustrator 25 29.0 and it also does not work in the beta.
The new illustrator 25 29.0 is worse. When I shift + click a swatch in the control bar and change the color it does not change the color of the swatch I am selecting but instead is changing the color of the swatch that is active in the toolbar. It is so bad that it doesn't matter what swatch I am shift + clicking, the fill swatch or the stroke swatch, in the control bar because it is changing only the swatch that is active in the toolbar.

The new illustrator 25 29.0 is worse. When I shift + click a swatch in the control bar and change the color it does not change the color of the swatch I am selecting but instead is changing the color of the swatch that is active in the toolbar. It is so bad that it doesn't matter what swatch I am shift + clicking, the fill swatch or the stroke swatch, in the control bar because it is changing only the swatch that is active in the toolbar.

If I was an expert I would make it work so that
clicking the swatch drop down in the control bar would open the swatches
Shift + clicking the swatch drop down in the control bar would open the Color Mixer
Option + clicking the swatch drop down in the control bar would open the gradient
Command + clicking the swatch drop down in the control bar would open the patterns
IF I WAS AN EXPERT

Natalie, open your Creative Cloud Desktop app, go to Apps section, and find 'Beta Apps'. Locate Illustrator Beta there and install it.
The app will install next to the existing build of Ai and won’t affect it.

The only downside — on Windows it messes up with file associations, because OS can’t tell these apart. So if you don’t have any Ai launched, Windows will launch the latest installed when you open an .ai file form the Explorer. If you do have one of two launched, Windows will use it. And if the major build number match — Windows won’t let you to launch both at the same time.

Here is the help article: https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/creative-cloud-beta.html

@admin Egor Chistyakov sorry for the silly question but can you tell me - or link me to - how to sample Beta?

@Natalie, this make me sure it is exactly what I meant. Shift-clicking indeed used to display the name of the Pantone used, since that’s what Mixer UI used to show for a Spot Color. And it indeed got broken just recently when the team reworked these dropdown to also include new modes for it.

The latest Beta tried some changes to ease the pain, but I personally don’t find these solid. However, they should work for your case, so please do try Beta if you can, see it yourself, and comment back if doesn’t do the trick.

I’ve also merged your report into an existing one.

@admin Egor Chistyakov While that is a useful behavior, that's not what I mean.
Please see the action I am trying to describe, attached.

This is after you already have used & selected a Pantone color, but you need to see the color quickly. No Drop Down. It does not Magically convert colors... It simply displays the appropriate color code with a shift+Click.

This action was removed in the latest update.

You mean this behavior, recorded in the attached GIF, correct?
When holding Shift always opens the 'Color' dropdown in the alternate mode, basically Color (sliders / mixer, with the name of the Pantone visible — if the color IS already Pantone), instead of default 'Swatches' view?

And you don’t mean clicking it with Shift magically converts a color into a Pantone, as one can think?

@admin Egor Chistyakov Control panel, where your fill/stroke color swatches live. You used to be able to shift+Click the color and it would display Pantone code, without expanding all used color swatches. Now it does not Shift+Click, and you must expand, find your color, and there will appear your Pantone color code

Natalie, can you please elaborate? Where do you click specifically? In Control panel? In Swatches? In Properties? How did it work for you before?

REVERT to older illustrator update, where shift+Click color swatch to display Pantone color code. A simple shift+Click is now missing, slowing production to the full swatch and then discovering the code by filtering through all swatches. Bad update. Please revert.

Not happy with the fix...
For me using Shift works once to toggle it into the mixer, but if I don’t use Shift anymore, it now sticks to sliders and does NOT open it as Swatches :(
And please fix the 'shift' with lower-case 's' finally!

Here is a comparison, before and after.
Sure, new dropdown offers more information and allows to toggle the modes with a click in a button, but using a modifier is faster and should just work.

I confirm that. The hover tooltip still says 'Hold shift key to bring up alternate color UI' — but it really doesn’t do it anymore (and 'shift' is in lower case, ugh).
I bet this change was caused by the recent changes the team made to squeeze in the new generative controls.

However, double-clicking a swatch in a dropdown in Control works for me and opens the Swatch Options dilaog.
John, is this what you meant? Please clarify and maybe even demonstrate, if possible.