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    monokano commented  · 

    To reproduce this bug, follow these steps:

    - Save (or Save As) the file.
    - Open the saved file.
    - Save (or Save As) the file again.
    - Open the saved file.

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  2. 18 votes

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    We have the fix available in the latest release. Please update Illustrator using Adobe Creative Cloud application to the latest build for version Illustrator CC 22.1.
    Please refer to our knowledge base FAQhttps://illustrator.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1844590 if you face difficulty in update.
    Or get in touch with us at any of the other support channels – https://helpx.adobe.com/support.html

    Warm Regards,
    Ashutosh Chaturvedi | Sr. Quality Engineering Manager – Illustrator
    Adobe. Make It an Experience.

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    monokano commented  · 

    As of v28 (2024), the bug fix for this issue is incomplete.

    Reproduction steps:
    1. Open a file of v10 or lower version in v22 (2018) or later.
    2. Press “OK” in the legacy text warning.
    3. Save the file using “Save As...” without making any changes. Close the file.
    4. Open the saved file. Save it again using “Save As...” without making any changes. Close the file.
    5. Open the file again. Update the legacy text.
    The legacy text disappears at step 5.

    Sample v8 file
    https://mega.nz/file/B0BU3S4C#NVSyEUVaTHsP_TwXqCnH6RpbjIcF0qrPT27-gI7jtM4

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  3. 53 votes

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    Started  ·  PCM Maro responded

    Illustrator 製品フィードバックへのご協力ありがとうございます。

    ご報告いただきました問題につきまして、再現を確認いたしました。
    修正の状況などのアップデートがありましたら、こちらでご報告いたします。

    今後ともよろしくお願いいたします。
    Illustrator チーム

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    monokano commented  · 

    スクリプトの「AlternateGlyphsForm.DEFAULTFORM」を適用すると、正常に標準字形に戻ります。字形パネルメニュー「標準字形に戻す」もこれと同じ結果にならなければいけません。

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    monokano commented  · 

    v28(2024)も直っていません。

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    monokano commented  · 

    v26(2022)で直りませんでした。

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    monokano commented  · 

    再現手順:
    日本語版 Illustrator CS v11 以降すべてのバージョンで発生する。

    1. 新規ドキュメントを作成
    2. テキストツールで欧文数字「012」を入力
    3. テキストツールで選択
    4. フォントを「小塚ゴシック」に設定
    5. 字形パネルメニュー「標準字形に戻す」を選択

    期待する結果:
    欧文数字「012」はまったく変化しない。

    実際の結果:
    欧文数字「012」が等幅全角字形「012」に変化してしまう。
    なお、欧文数字「012」の文字コードは変わらず、グリフだけ等幅全角字形に置換されている状態である。

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  4. 18 votes

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  5. 54 votes

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    monokano commented  · 

    > 表示を一度拡大してからオブジェクトを移動すると即座に再現される

    ホントですねぇ…。この発生状況は2021が最も危険な印象です。

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    monokano commented  · 

    Illustrator 2021(25.4.8)
    RYOさんがコメントで添付した「sample」で再現できました。
    なかなか再現しないのですが、何度も移動を細かく繰り返すと再現しました。
    再現したりしなかったりの条件はまったく分かりません。

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    monokano commented  · 

    I believe the two should be merged.

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    Apple M2
    macOS Ventura 13.6.6
    Illustrator 2024(28.4.1)

    Apple Siliconでも再現します。
    上記の再現手順に漏れていますが、再現するには「GPUパフォーマンス」「リアルタイムの描画と編集」の両方ともONにする必要があります。

  6. 57 votes

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    monokano commented  · 

    When using Illustrator, we are focused on visual creative work. In this state of concentration, scrolling and panning happen unconsciously. In other words, we are not aware that we are currently scrolling or panning. This is a very important point.

    In this state, sudden disappearance or appearance of guides causes unintended significant visual changes. This hinders concentration on visual creative work. We do not want to be disturbed while we are focused.

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    Illustratorを使っているとき、私たちは視覚的なクリエイティブな作業に集中しています。その集中状態では、スクロールやパンが無意識のうちに行われます。つまり、私たちは自分が今スクロールやパンをしていることに気づいていません。ここがとても重要なポイントです。

    この状態で、ガイドが突然消えたり現れたりすると、意図しない大きな視覚的変化が起こります。これは視覚的なクリエイティブな作業への集中を妨げます。私たちは集中しているときに邪魔されたくありません。

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    monokano commented  · 

    This phenomenon can be quite bothersome when working with Illustrator. It's a significant downside in terms of user experience.

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    この現象はIllustratorを操作する際にかなりうっとうしく感じます。ユーザーエクスペリエンスとして大きな欠点です。

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    monokano commented  · 

    This bug is causing concern among users. They are beginning to suspect that v27.9.2 is not an updated version, but rather a modified version based on 2024 (v28).

    このバグはユーザーの不安を引き起こしています。ユーザーは、v27.9.2がアップデートされたバージョンではなく、2024(v28)をベースにした改変版ではないかと疑い始めています。

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    monokano commented  · 

    The application name of the Mac version of Illustrator is a localized name, and the description in the “InfoPlist.strings” file where the localization is set is incorrect.

    Mac版Illustratorのアプリ名はローカライズされた名前であり、そのローカライズ表記が設定されている「InfoPlist.strings」の記述が間違っています。

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    Addendum
    The notation within the application bar is also "Illustrator 2024". This is not localized.

    追記
    アプリケーションバーの中の表記も「Illustrator 2024」です。ここはローカライズではありません。

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    monokano commented  · 

    ★よりシンプルな再現手順

    ドキュメントAを作成する
    A-1. 新規ドキュメント作成
    A-2. 新規文字スタイルを作成
    A-3. 文字カラーの塗りと線を設定変更する。黒以外のカラーにすると分かりやすい
    A-4. 保存して閉じる

    ドキュメントBを作成する
    B-1. 新規ドキュメント作成
    B-2. 文字パネルメニューから「文字スタイルの読み込み...」を選択
    B-3. ドキュメントAを選択して文字スタイルを読み込む
    B-4. 保存して閉じる
    B-5. 再度開く

    B-5で文字スタイルの文字カラー設定が塗りと線とも「なし」に変わってしまいます。

    ★補足説明

    この文字スタイルをテキストオブジェクトに適用すると、塗りと線がとも黒になります。しかしこの黒はIllustratorで直接扱えないデバイスカラースペースのDeviceGrayであり、アウトライン化するとカラーが消失してしまいます。

    つまりこの不具合は、「文字カラーをデフォルトから変更した文字スタイル」を他のドキュメントから読み込んで保存すると文字カラー設定がDeviceGrayに変わってしまう、ということだと思われます。

    そして文字スタイルだけでなく、段落スタイルにも同じ不具合があります。

    ★発生するバージョン

    2020(v24)からこの不具合が確認できました。

    なお、文字/段落スタイル機能が搭載されたCS(v11)からCC2019(v)では、上記再現手順でさらに異様な現象が発生します。推測ですが、この不具合を直したつもりが別の不具合を招いてしまったのかもしれません。

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    As per the comment inside, an ability to hide units for dimension objects is introduced in AI Beta build 28.3.0.47.

    No more news so far on other parts of the request.

    Speaking of which — if possible, please try to report/request one entry per post, to better track all the feedback. Thanks you for your participation.

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    monokano commented  · 

    I have confirmed. This bug has been occurring since v27.1.

    Japanese:
    確認しました。このバグはv27.1から発生しています。

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    monokano commented  · 

    AI files generate a PDF data with the same appearance as the native data every time they are saved.

    Since 2020 (version 24), there has been an increasing occurrence of anomalies in generating this PDF data. The cause was empirically speculated to be the 'Save/Export in Background' feature introduced in 2020. However, despite efforts, the triggering conditions remained elusive, leading to a prolonged inability to provide effective feedback.

    One of the identified triggering conditions is related to the composite font used. There might be other triggering conditions as well.

    A strong request is being made to the Illustrator development team. They are urged to set 'Save/Export in Background' to be OFF by default. Additionally, for language versions with composite font functionality, it is requested to have it OFF by default.

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    aiファイルは保存されるたびに、ネイティブデータと同じ外見のPDFデータを生成します。

    2020(24)以降、このPDFデータ生成中に異常が多発するようになりました。その原因は、2020で搭載された「バックグラウンドで保存/書き出し」機能である可能性が経験的に推測されていました。それでも発生要件を特定することが難しく、有効なフィードバックができない状況が長く続いていました。

    ここに投稿した合成フォントの問題は、ようやく特定した発生要件のひとつです。他にも発生要件はあるでしょう。

    Illustrator開発チームに強く要望します。「バックグラウンドで保存/書き出し」をデフォルトでOFFにするようお願いします。合成フォント機能を持つ言語版だけでもデフォルトでOFFにしていただきたいです。

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    monokano commented  · 

    The concern here is not about Type A, but the need for improvements in Type B. When the color of the effect is set to RGB(0,0,0) in RGB mode, it becomes the default color. However, this carries over to CMYK mode, causing the effect's color to be something other than CMYK(0,0,0,100). This situation could be seen as a lack of consideration for the user.

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    ここでの懸念事項はType Aに関するものではなく、Type Bの改善が必要です。RGBモードで効果の色をRGB(0,0,0)に設定すると、それがデフォルトの色になります。しかし、これがCMYKモードにも引き継がれ、効果の色がCMYK(0,0,0,100)とは異なってしまいます。この状況は、ユーザーへの配慮が不足していると言えるでしょう。

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    There are two types of default colors for effects.

    Type A: Default color upon startup.
    Type B: Default color is the most recently used color, resetting to Type A upon restart.

    Type A's default CMYK effect color separation issue occurred from 2020 (24) to 2022 (26), which was resolved in 2023 (27).

    Type B has been a long-standing feature, where the default color is the most recent used color, irrespective of the document's RGB/CMYK color mode. This feature itself poses significant issues.

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    効果のデフォルトカラーには2種類あります。

    種類A:起動直後のデフォルトカラー
    種類B:直近で使ったカラーがデフォルトとなる。再起動するとAに戻る

    種類AのCMYK効果デフォルトカラー4色割れは2020(24)から2022(26)まで発生。2023(27)で修正されました。

    種類Bは昔からの仕様であり、ドキュメントのカラーモードがRGB/CMYKであるかに関係なく、直近に使用したカラーがデフォルトになります。この仕様自体に重大な問題が存在しています。

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    monokano commented  · 

    Paragraph styles were introduced in Illustrator CS (v11).
    This issue started from CS2 (v12).
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    段落スタイルはIllustratorにCS(v11)で導入されました。
    この問題はCS2(v12)から発生しています。

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    monokano commented  · 

    クリップボード系の常駐アプリをインストールしていたりしませんか?

    Do you have any clipboard-related resident apps installed?

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